Again, waiting to see where this one is going.........
This is a discussion on Any way to get a ccw in places like NY/CA/IL? (loopholish type stuff?) within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; So I'm a college student right now very interested in programming used for anything, trading being one of those things... unfortunately, the three best places ...
So I'm a college student right now very interested in programming used for anything, trading being one of those things... unfortunately, the three best places for software development or trading is NYC/Chicago/California. From what I've read, those three places are the worst for hopeful CCW holders. I've read that they issue CCWs to Private Investigators and it got me thinking of how hard it would be become a PI and not really do anything, just to hold a CCW. I don't know anything about the PI career or regulations, so I've come here to see if anybody thinks this option is even logical.
I'm not sure if you'd be required to actually work a certain amount of time or if you just give em your $$$ and you're good (after background checks/classes and all that jazz). I also don't know how much $$$ it takes, so yeah... any feedback?
I think working for the Sheriff will allow you to carry under LEOSA, as well as owning Class 3 firearms.
NY and CA, yes it's possible. Ill? Not for us common folk.
I would have to say that even residents in those states that have lived there all their lives can't get a concealed carry license.
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Wrong to most responses so far, in certsin areas. I challenge not the almighty! I can only speak for my state and experience. OVERALL, my process was as it should be in a shall issue scenario. There were aspects that I feel should have been different, but given the other options I will take it. It is a sad thing that many in CA can not exercise their rights but in my county we can and i do. I am not aware of loopholes and it would seem to me that if you ever utilized your right to defend yourself that loophole could backfire.
I truly wish it were different for many states, but it is what it is and there are many who are working to correct it.
Not sure what location options you have in CA, but, the largest county in the country is very much shall issue, quite the anomaly.
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Interesting question. In CA, try the insurance commissioner for a bounty hunter license. After you research, of course. Call a bail bondsman near the city of your potential school in CA, for starters.
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when the intervention of society... may be too late to prevent an injury.
There's a list of rules called "all I need to know, I learned from Noah's Ark." One of them states "Remember that woodpeckers inside are a larger threat than the storm outside."
In that vein, it may be easier for you to work within the "system" in each of those venues. Are there auxiliary police forces? Supernumeraries? Sheriff's posses? Do you know anyone "inside" the mayor or governor's inner circle who can exert influence on your behalf? And I'm not talking about anything illegal, just the normal quid pro quo that is alive and well in politics. Can you write some awesome code for these people and earn a favor?
There may be lots of ways which fall outside of John Q. Public's immediate grasp which are open to the aggressive and imaginative thinker. I'm not saying it's right, but rather that "alternative means" exist.
And if you DO succeed with getting a permit via non-standard means, then you owe John Q. Public a reasonable effort to work on his behalf to earn him the same rights and privileges.
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I've got mine but I also live in a county where the SO sat me down at the interview and said, "OK, so do you have any questions?" And that was it. I'm pretty sure that you are SOL if you plan on attending a college in any coastal city from South of Mendocino County, all the way to Mexico.
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Even if you do find a way to work the system you will in all likelihood be operating hostile environment. Should you have to use that firearm to protect yourself you may be thrown into an unsypathetic court system/process. The world needs crusaders to push the envelope. We all benefit from their actions. Are you willing to assume the mantle or just trying to get what you want irrespective of the community consensus in which you will live in? Those are the things I would be asking myself.
OP, have you checked out Carnegie Mellon ?
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In California, it's may-issue and the county sheriffs get the control over deciding whether your claimed needs are justifiable enough. But not all counties have anti-gun sheriffs.
In many counties, of course, "may issue" really means it might well never happen for the unwashed. In much of the state, though, rationality has prevailed and it's recognized that an armed citizenry has every justification. If you're going to live in one of those counties and partake in the more popular locales for your career choice, then it's likely you'll be commuting awhile. For example, living in one of the pro-gun counties in the hills outside of Sacramento, but then working there.
Head to Calguns.net discussion boards, for further information and opinions on the various counties, in this regard.
Become a cop. Then you can carry darn near anywhere. Otherwise, forget it.
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CA and NY both, it is possible, even probable depending where your located. If you go with NY, you have to remember any permit issued outside of NYC is not valid in the city. As for IL, their is no such thing as a conceal carry permit. Also remember, none of those states recognize out of state permits.
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