Bad: Another Mass Shooting

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    ”Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.”

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    Drunken freaking idiot?
    Seems like these fools are coming out of the woodwork latley or our media friends are on a roll pre election.

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    Mass shootings come in spurts. Someone smarter than I should do a correlation study.
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    Nbc Cnn and Abc are going to have field day with this.

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    I guarantee you I wouldn't of been there.It never fails some drunk Moron gets thrown out and he decides he's gonna make them pay.
    Last year we had a FED CBP guy was thrown out of a bar and retrieved his service gun from his vehicle and shot and killed the bar owner,then tried to claim self defense...he got a life sentence
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    Sounds like a simple targeted/revenge murder, not a "mass" killing despite the count>1. Still, "field day" is a good description for how the liberty-hating press is going to run with it.
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    No mention of the shooter having a carry permit. I'm sure if he did, the press would have put it in the headline of the story. Not surprising that it happened at a strip club. They always attract a high class brand of customers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    Sounds like a simple targeted/revenge murder, not a "mass" killing despite the count>1. Still, "field day" is a good description for how the liberty-hating press is going to run with it.
    . My thoughts exactly... It seems that nowadays any shooting that has more than one target is being classified as "mass" shooting. I guess by definition "mass" would indicate more than one victim, but it seems to be pointing to a indiscriminate act made by a unknown atacker as well. IMO, if a shooter targets a location where he, or she had a situation develop at some point and returns to kill or threaten, is clearly a revenge type shooting and not a act of indiscriminate mass shooting.

    Why is this important; I just feel it can lead to fear mongering regarding firearms in general and put all firearm owners in a very bad light. It's like the media is saying that, at anytime a responsible gun owner can flip out and go on a killing spree. Just sayin..
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    Just a madder of coverage. 3 were shot down again in Milwaukee two nights ago, you will see or hear nothing on the news about it.
    Why? because it is common place, It happen in a liberal city in a part of town nobody wants to deal with.
    Just in what they narrow down to Milwaukee 13 murders this years so far we have had a slow year. That is the number killed the number shot is far higher seems the bangers are not very good shots. They often hit some kid not even invoked in there gang activity.
    But the killers were all misunderstood good boys. Just not PC to get into these killings and shooting.

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    Th obvious answer is the Maryland approach, which has had so much success with reducing felonies, particularly in Baltimore. Implement a permit requirement to enter a strip club. The key requirement that has worked so well in Maryland is to implement a need for a "good and substantial" reason to go in. If your good and substantial reason is not accepted as such by the strip club permit ruling committee, its a no go. If the committee has determined your reason for entering a strip club is good and substantial enough, you'll get your permit. At least it would stop all these senseless strip club crimes.

    If only Alabama had a law against firing a hand gun in public, this would never have happened.

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    It's the latest example of violence in the city that's already had more than 160 murders this year. At the same time, criminals have become more brazen.

    From The Detroit News: Persistent violence fosters fear, frustration in Detroit | The Detroit News |

    Michigan's concealed carry law is "shall issue," meaning that anyone over 21 may obtain a license to carry a concealed handgun if they are not prohibited from owning firearms, have not been found guilty or been accused of certain felonies or misdemeanors within a certain time period, and have completed state approved firearms training. Concealed Pistol License (CPL) holders are exempt from the obtaining a license to purchase a handgun; however, they must fulfill the registration requirement

    City of Detriot:Ordinances required to obtain a handgun.

    I am running out of time to continue the search of requirements for owning and carrying a firearm in Detriot but it looks like a pretty tough go to do it legally.

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    Wait -- you mean Michigan does not have statewide pre-emption? Or it does but Detroit gets to opt out?
    (I should wait for an answer here -- like to get on my stump and rant about these stupid big cities, who don't get that More guns = Less crime).
    Anti-gunners seem to believe that if we just pass enough laws, we can have utopia. Unfortunately, utopia is NOT one of our choices.

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    Another incident at a place where I'll probably not be found! You have to ask yourself, why would you put yourself in that position?
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    Nightclubs have always been focal points for violence (usually alcohol-fueled). This is nothing new.
    I'm not saying we should shut them all down, or that you can't go. Just don't walk in thinking that you're any safer there than you would be at, say, a movie theater.
    "The flock sleep peaceably in their pasture at night because Sheepdogs stand ready to do violence on their behalf."

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    3 is not a 'mass' shooting

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    2. with Stupid people
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