A year of stats on crime and CCW holders in texas
This is a discussion on A year of stats on crime and CCW holders in texas within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I thought this was interesting and worth posting because it gives us a look into what crimes accrue by non CHL holders and CHL holders
...
15Likes
-
August 16th, 2012 04:52 PM
#1
Ex Member
Array
A year of stats on crime and CCW holders in texas
I thought this was interesting and worth posting because it gives us a look into what crimes accrue by non CHL holders and CHL holders
interesting look at the crimes and category’s
Total offenses 63,679 crimes 120 by TX CHL holders 0.1884% of the total
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/RSD/CHL...Report2011.pdf
-
August 16th, 2012 04:52 PM
Remove Ads
-
August 16th, 2012 04:54 PM
#2
Senior Member
Array
I'm kinda surprised it was 120 I actually thought it would be lower
-
August 16th, 2012 04:57 PM
#3
VIP Member
Array
What is the total population of TX, and the total number of CHL holders there?
A man fires a rifle for many years, and he goes to war. And afterward he turns the rifle in at the armory, and he believes he's finished with the rifle. But no matter what else he might do with his hands - love a woman, build a house, change his son's diaper - his hands remember the rifle.

-
August 16th, 2012 04:59 PM
#4
Member
Array

Originally Posted by
CowboyColby
I'm kinda surprised it was 120 I actually thought it would be lower
Always going to have a tiny percentage of folks that do things they shouldn't. 31 of the offenses were related to unlawful carry... carrying somewhere not allowed.
Thanks for sharing, it's interesting data.
-
August 16th, 2012 05:00 PM
#5
Senior Member
Array
"For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast." - Ephesians 2:8-9
“The purpose of the law is not to prevent a future offense, but to punish the one actually committed” - Ayn Rand
-
August 16th, 2012 05:03 PM
#6
VIP Member
Array
And I am assuming that "UNL CARRY HANDGUN LIC HOLDER" is the "unlawful carrying of a handgun by a license holder." This raises a few questions -
1) If you are a license holder, what constitutes unlawful carrying (there are several other statutes about carrying where prohibited, where posted, etc).
2)If this is unlawful carry by a permit holder, how come 35% of the people convicted for it are NOT license holders?
Ah, I love the law... :)
A man fires a rifle for many years, and he goes to war. And afterward he turns the rifle in at the armory, and he believes he's finished with the rifle. But no matter what else he might do with his hands - love a woman, build a house, change his son's diaper - his hands remember the rifle.

-
August 16th, 2012 05:15 PM
#7
Ex Member
Array

Originally Posted by
OPFOR
What is the total population of TX, and the total number of CHL holders there?
CHL; we are right at around 500,000
population is 25,674,681 (does not include illegal aliens)
-
August 16th, 2012 05:18 PM
#8
Ex Member
Array
If any other states area available please posts them; I love to see how we compare
-
August 16th, 2012 05:20 PM
#9
VIP Member
Array
I think the unlawful carry by a license holder when not listed as a prohibited place or some other specific location related thing might be while intoxicated.
The license holders that are not included in CHL holder group could be folks carrying under a reciprocity agreement as opposed to having a Texas CHL.
I will have to look for some population figures but the Houston metro area is about eight million people.
Infowars- Proving David Hannum right on a daily basis
-
August 16th, 2012 05:21 PM
#10
Member
Array
Mostly looks like assaults and carrying where they shouldn't be. No big surprises.
-
August 16th, 2012 05:30 PM
#11
VIP Member
Array
If it is 500k, and the population of TX is in the neighborhood of 25 million, that would mean that CHL holders account for 2% of the population, but account for less than 0.2% of the convictions. Yeah, not bad.
A man fires a rifle for many years, and he goes to war. And afterward he turns the rifle in at the armory, and he believes he's finished with the rifle. But no matter what else he might do with his hands - love a woman, build a house, change his son's diaper - his hands remember the rifle.

-
August 16th, 2012 05:41 PM
#12
Senior Member
Array

Originally Posted by
barstoolguru
CHL; we are right at around 500,000
population is 25,674,681 (does not include illegal aliens)
according to those numbers then, and assuming that every charge on that list was for a different individual (highly unlikely) this means that .24% of texas citizens without chl's committed a crime last year, while .024 of chl holders did. a difference of .8%. so non chl holders are 8 times more likely to commit a crime.
next year however they will not likely be on the chl side should they re-offend.
-
August 16th, 2012 06:09 PM
#13
VIP Member
Array

Originally Posted by
Fausty
according to those numbers then, and assuming that every charge on that list was for a different individual (highly unlikely) this means that .24% of texas citizens without chl's committed a crime last year, while .024 of chl holders did. a difference of .8%. so non chl holders are 8 times more likely to commit a crime.
next year however they will not likely be on the chl side should they re-offend.
Well, that's not exactly how those numbers shake out, but it's in the ball park. And yeah, it's a self-correcting problem - CHL holder gets convicted, he's not going to be in the CHL holder column next year!
A man fires a rifle for many years, and he goes to war. And afterward he turns the rifle in at the armory, and he believes he's finished with the rifle. But no matter what else he might do with his hands - love a woman, build a house, change his son's diaper - his hands remember the rifle.

-
August 16th, 2012 06:21 PM
#14
Member
Array
If you take out nonviolent/non-felony charges, the number drops dramatically.
Best way to win a gun fight? "That's easy, don't show up."
--Wyatt Earp
"Fast is fine, but accuracy is everything."
-- Wyatt Earp
-
August 16th, 2012 06:24 PM
#15
Member
Array
The total population of Texas includes infants, first graders, people in a coma, etc. This amounts to identifying how many people in Texas have a Discover card and then how many of those were arrested for disturbing the peace and then thinking a relationship can be inferred from the resulting numbers. At the least, no crimes should be counted by anyone not of an age required to get a permit. It feels good to look a these numbers but it is weak to use them to make much of a point. We know that CCW permit holders are less likely to commit crimes. I would like to see real population selection done so that the numbers could at least be defended.
Posting Permissions
- You may not post new threads
- You may not post replies
- You may not post attachments
- You may not edit your posts
-
Forum Rules
Search tags for this page
crimes by ccw holders
, crimes by chl holders
, crimes committed by ccw holders
, crimes committed by chl holders
, homicides by committed by chl holder
, how many chl holders commit crimes
, how many chl holders in texas
, how many chl holders in texas 2012
, how many chl holders in texas as of 2012
, how many chl in texas
, how many texas chl holders
, number of chl holders in texas
, number of chl in texas
, number of texas chl holders
, texas chl crime statistics