Facts please on that. Ya know every city and town is different in the US. There are plenty of places I have been where the employer did not provide parking. You parked on the street or took public transportation.
And exactly where does it say that the employer has to provide parking for employees? I just a read a bunch of mumbo jumbo about taxes.
ETA: And it still does not change the fact that it is your choice that is casuing you to impacted by the employers policy while you are off the clock. As you have said the reason you can not carry to and from work is because you choose to ride a bicycle, whichyou choose to not equip with a lock box. You admit that you have not even offered to split the cost with your employer. You say you have not spoken to your employer about it so you don't even know if they would accomodate you! But instead you want laws passed to require employers to allow on the job carry.
If you had taken one tenth the time you have spent writing about this and actually talked with your employer they might have said yes and allowed you to carry. You would get what you want and would not have to intrude on the lives of others.
The employer's policy reaches beyond their private property and scope of employment. Therefore the employer must either remove the policy or provide gun lockers, just as employers are being forced to look the other way while guns are lawfully stored in a car.
So let me get this straight.
Since you cannot manage your time correctly, show the commitment to the military and do PT on your own time or you are just really cheap and don't want to buy gas you ride your bike to work for exercise in lieu of off work PT.
Since you ride your bike to work you have no place to lock up your gun so you don't carry it. So now it is your employer's responsibility to provide you with a place to lock up your gun because you make the choice to ride a bike and have no place to store it and of course since they have this policy in effect any criminal act that would occur because you are riding your bike unarmed to and from work would be their responsibility to right?
Your statements in this post does not seem to go along with your statements and soapbox speech you gave on why you carry a gun 24/7/365 and would never be caught without one, the threat level is so high due to gangbangers after your family you knowingly and willingly carry a concealed weapon against your companies policy knowing you could get fired if caught, charged criminally and ruined finacially if you had to use it BUT you ride a 10 speed to work unarmed?
Which is it? Are you in constant fear for you and your families life or is the threat not quite as big as you make it out to be if you are riding unarmed on a bicycle? If I have a group of individuals who are gunning for me and my family the last thing I am going to do is put myself in a position where they don't have to shoot me or beat me to death. All they have to do is drive by and whiz a 40 oz at my head or simply run over me. If this threat was real you would have a weapon and be in a vehicle not unarmed on a bike.
Dude your posts are getting nuttier by the minute but all this is a mute point. Law says they can so you are ass out. No further statements or replies needed. They win you lose. Don't like it file a lawsuit but good luck finding an attorney to take the case or a judge that will even hear it.
Oh by the way just thought of another "Which is it question".
You have stated over and over how you carry at work concealed all the time at work against company policy and no one knows, so why would you not simply carry the gun while riding and wear it to work like you say you do now? So if you are carrying it in secret anyway why would you need a lockbox in the first place? Like I said guy your stories are not making sense so which is it?
The truth is, you don't trust people. You're afraid the average typical law-abiding citizen is going to try to apply force on you, despite all the evidence to the contrary. This makes your mistrust, your fear, irrational. Not raging loonacy, no, just irrational.
A healthy level of distrust of any stranger is warranted, because you can't yet determine if they are friend or foe. However, once that person presents valid credentials proving their 'good guy' status, such as a valid CCW or military ID, that healthy level of initial distrust should pass. As you noted earlier in this thread, an EMT should have the ability to carry into your home, even against your will if need be. Because you accept the EMT's "good guy" social status, you trust him and therefore have little or no objection.
If your rule of "my property, my rules" were true, then you would still deny, by force, an armed EMT's entrance.
To reiterate, the reason why you don't care about an employer's policy over reaching beyond the scope of the job or private property rights, is because you have an unhealthy level of distrust for people in general.
Trust is the problem, not guns, not rights or who's what is infringing on anyone's where. It all comes down to trust and respect.
As far as a CCW liscense or military ID I laugh at that. Any idiot can join the military and any moron can get a CCW assuming they are not a felon or wife beater. What on earth does that prove. They know which end goes bang? Big whoopdie doo. As far as the military...sorry folks and most will admit it. Just by being in the military does not make you a weapons expert. Depending what branch and MOS you might touch a gun 2 times a year and even then they don't trust you with the ammo and the gun at the same time until you are ready to fire. So please, get real.
You sir do not need a gun for your job. In fact, why do you need to carry in my house if I hired you? Becasue you don't trust me? Where is the danger when a plumber is working in my home? And if I was the danger you were were concerned about I would just wait till you took out your circular saw and had your back turned and then shoot you.
EDIT: When I say an EMT should carry, I do not mean as a CC'er. I meant as part of the job.
Kindly bother to learn something about a specific individual before making it personal.
Here in SD, a private property owner's gun-control policies do not carry the force of law. The most trouble I could get in is to be fired. No criminal charge.
If I found myself facing the choice to either have a gun or a job in my field, last week I would have told you that I would carry anyway and fight for these laws so that I wouldn't be terminated if 'made'. Today, I may have to cut back the bike riding so that I can store my gun in my car. I admit I may carry while the owner isn't home, which is quite often, but quietly store it while they are home. I would look into welding a mini gun vault onto my bike, but that would stand out and make my bike more of a target.
So, I'm more agreeable to the other side, but I'm still in a tight spot.
I know how the Airborne views the rest of the world. If it's just you, everyone else sucks. If its your team, then your team is legit but the rest of the squad and the whole army sucks. If it's your squad, then your squad is legit but rest of your platoon and the whole army sucks. If it's your platoon, then your platoon is legit but the rest of your company and the whole army sucks. Etc, etc, ad-nausium.
That's what you're doing here. Your close friends are legit but the rest of the world sucks.
I just spent 8 months with a battalion of Airborne, you guys aren't anywhere near as elite, skilled or professional as you want people to think. Us lowly, lowly engineers never lost a weapon, never had an ND. Can't say the same for the super-hoah Airborn.
What on earth are you babbling about....good grief. Got a complex issue going on there? Never said one unit is better than another. Just a fact. A cook on a ship I would imagine does not touch a weapon as often as a SeAl. A supply sergeant in the army does not fire as much as someone in CAG. A rigger in the AF (actually riggers in the AF do not even have to be jump qualified which is another topic altogether LOL) does not touch a weapon as much as a PJ. I have worked with all services. It is a fact of life. It is not I am better than you. Get over the complex and back to the thread.
Edit: FWIW if you are in certain units and you can not demonstrate your ability to handle a weapon safely you are no longer in that unit. Unlike in other units where you get a counseling.
Let's put some real details in here.
This gun: The Smith & Wesson Model 642 Centennial Airweight Revolver
In this holster: SmartCarry - Concealed Gun Holsters
Doing carpentry work, let's say hanging cabinets (fairly typical winter job for me).
How would my carrying while at work harm anyone or anything?