Flying With Firearm - First Experience
This is a discussion on Flying With Firearm - First Experience within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Devone6
It really isn't that big a deal, in fact my apprehension was the only problem I had the first time I ...
August 29th, 2012 09:45 PM
I hear ya on that point. It's really surprising how brainwashed many of us are about this completely legal activity. None of my friends I know who carry have ever traveled with a firearm. I was very nervous and my wife made it clear she wouldn't post bail. LOL! This is something I will do more frequently, simply out of principal. True freedom comes with great responsibility.
Originally Posted by Devone6
"To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason
August 29th, 2012 10:03 PM
Gun must be locked in a secure case that only you can open. If that case is in a suitcase, the suitcase may be unlocked or have TSA lock on it; concept is TSA must be able to check the suitcase, but if they need to check the gun they need to have you open the secure case. Slightly different if the gun is in a gun case that is it's own piece of luggage. "Travelers may only transport UNLOADED firearms in a locked, hard-sided container IN OR AS checked baggage."
See: TSA: Traveling with Special Items
But also check each airline's reg's; Southwest, for example:
Firearms must be encased in a hard-sided, locked container that is of sufficient strength to withstand normal handling, as follows:
A firearm in a hard-sided, locked container may be placed inside a soft-sided, unlocked suitcase.
A firearm placed inside a hard-sided, locked suitcase does not have to be encased in a container manufactured for the transportation of firearms.
The locked container or suitcase must completely secure the firearm from access. Cases or suitcases that can be pulled open with minimal effort do not meet the locked criterion.
Only the Customer checking the luggage should retain the key or combination to the lock. No exceptions will be made.
Firearms may be checked and will count toward the two-piece free baggage allowance for each fare-paying passenger. We allow multiple firearms to be transported inside one hard-sided case.
In Albuquerque (Southwest), just declare to agent, fill out form, no hassle at all. Haven't checked my carry gun at Midway or O'Hare yet, but I don't expect much more trouble than the other airports I've been through (note I have IL FOID, Chicago Firearms Permit, and Chicago registration certificates for each of my guns-whew...) But folks, this is as legal as checking our clothes. I carry TSA regs and airline regs, but haven't needed them ... Be safe.
Last edited by Mark IL NM; August 30th, 2012 at 10:28 AM.
August 29th, 2012 10:24 PM
"If you are traveling by air with firearms, federal law allows (in fact, it compels) you to secure your luggage with a non-TSA approved lock"
Originally Posted by EchoDeltaSierra
from Packing & the Friendly Skies
I used a non-TSA lock on my last trip with no trouble.
August 29th, 2012 10:31 PM
Cool beans! Hope the return is as uneventful.
"Historical examination of the right to bear arms, from English antecedents to the drafting of the Second Amendment, bears proof that the right to bear arms has consistently been, and should still be, construed as an individual right." -- U.S. District Judge Sam Cummings, Re: U.S. vs Emerson (1999)
August 30th, 2012 12:27 AM
You are right on about the brainwashing. My first time was similar to yours, but now it's no big deal. I worry more about my bag weighing more than the 50 pounds allowed! Congrats, and ditto on the principle and responsibility!
Originally Posted by EchoDeltaSierra
August 30th, 2012 08:49 AM
For those interested in a complete discussion of how to fly (on a plane) with a firearm:
Mac's Guide to Flying with a Firearm: - Glock Talk
Detailed legal info to have in your posession when you fly sec 1540.111 (2):
Carriage of weapons, explosives, and incendiaries by individuals.
You should also print off and carry the TSA regs from their web site and the airlines regs from the airlin'e site.
You may never (hopefully) need these things but they are useful to have if you need to explain the procedure to a clerical individual.
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