Checking a firearm in NJ

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    Checking a firearm in NJ

    I may be flying out of Newark NJ and yes I know all about NY. If you are from NJ and fly out of Newark please comment. To all other if you are going to comment NY this and NJ that. Please dont.
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    As long as you are in legal possession and legal at your destination, you should be covered by federal interstate travel laws. Be sure to print out the regs and keep a copy with you, follow them to a T, and allow extra time at check in. If you encounter issues, remain calm and elevate to a supervisor.

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    This is where "Don't accept the answers from this, or any forum as legal advice." goes.

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    18 USC § 926A states

    Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

    The key words above is vehicle. And while you can certainly transport a weapon on airlines that permit it, the questions then become:

    1. Does vehicle include airplane? and;
    2. Does New Jersey consider a trip in which you have to stop at an airport to change modes of transportation as falling within 18 USC § 926A?

    Note: TSA rules are simple. Travelers may only transport UNLOADED firearms in a locked, hard-sided container in or as checked baggage. All firearms, ammunition and firearm parts, including firearm frames and receivers, are prohibited in carry-on baggage. See TSA: Traveling with Special Items

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    My opinion: If you are driving through NJ, you are covered, just don't stay overnight anywhere in NJ. I would not fly in or out of NJ with a gun. They are not to be trusted.

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    I fly out of JFK all the time and never had a problem. (Well once, leo was misinformed) Just wondering about Newark. I would be legal when I leave Nassau County and legal in Nevada. The Congressman Young letter that I carry mentions NY but not NJ.

    I will see and let you know how it goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HKinNY View Post
    I fly out of JFK all the time and never had a problem. (Well once, leo was misinformed) Just wondering about Newark. I would be legal when I leave Nassau County and legal in Nevada. The Congressman Young letter that I carry mentions NY but not NJ.

    I will see and let you know how it goes.
    Will keep an eye out for an update. What is this Congressman Young letter you mentioned above?

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    I just would not trust the Port Authority cops.
    Even if they bust you and it's an illegal arrest, the trip is ruined,there are court costs and try to get back your gun.
    Maybe fly from the airport in Nassau county. (can't remember name).
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    Once upon a time I lived in NJ and flew out of Newark frequently. I would not do what you propose, myself.

    You might try to talk (in advance) to a senior person in the Port Authority Police, they control such things in the airports, to get clarity.

    Or, you could drive to Philadelphia and fly out of there. That is what I would do.

    Good luck and let us know how it goes.

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    I fly out of NYC airports Kennedy and LGA all the time, no problems taking my firearms. This trip The price for airline ticket is reasonable out of Newark. May bite the bullet and spend more and fly out of Kennedy.

    Here is the letter.

    http://www.anjrpc.org/resource/resmg...elwithguns.pdf

    It explains to the Port Authority cops that if you are legal at the starting point of your trip and the ending point you can go directly to the airport as long as firearm is unload and in a locked container.

    People get jambed up when they fly into NY and when they go to leave they gt arrested becuase they are not legal to carry in the state of NY.
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    It explains what the Justice Department, via the Assistant Attorney General, thought in 2005 when responding to a United States Representative. The problem is that there is the law and then there is the interpretation of the law. Even the letter alludes to this when it states "This interpretation reflects the apparent congressional intent in enacting this provision, while allowing State and local law enforcement to continue to enforce their firearms laws aggressively to promote public safety." [Emphasis Added]

    Some Port Authority Police Officer may say otherwise. Just know that the letter is what it says it is, an interpretation. It is not a do not go to jail pass.

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    When I was a NJ resident, flying out of Newark with a checked handgun wasn't a problem at all.
    The TSA agents were a bit nervous and overly cautious, but other than taking an extra half hour, it was all okay.
    Of course, your problem is your NY driver's license. I don't know how the TSA will respond to an 'out-of-stater' checking a pistol.
    And if your flight out or in...gets waylaid overnight, things could get even more complicated.
    Seeing what I've seen, I don't think I would to try to check a handgun through Newark if I was a non-Jersey resident.
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    I paid a little more and booked air travel thru JFK to Vegas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brass63 View Post
    When I was a NJ resident, flying out of Newark with a checked handgun wasn't a problem at all.
    The TSA agents were a bit nervous and overly cautious, but other than taking an extra half hour, it was all okay.
    Of course, your problem is your NY driver's license. I don't know how the TSA will respond to an 'out-of-stater' checking a pistol.
    And if your flight out or in...gets waylaid overnight, things could get even more complicated.
    Seeing what I've seen, I don't think I would to try to check a handgun through Newark if I was a non-Jersey resident.
    I recall seeing something about a person trying to do this with out of state residence and assuming he was covered under FOPA and getting arrested in NJ and then a plea bargain to kick it down to a misdemeanor and forfeiture of the weapons. But I can't recall the case reference. You might find it on the NRA ILA site.
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