im not speling pourly bekuz thiz iz how i wunt to spel
This is a discussion on Just because I'm printing does not mean I'm...... within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Poorly concealed is a subjective opinion, are you concealed to the level defined in the law? If so you are "properly" concealed. Are you comfortably ...
Poorly concealed is a subjective opinion, are you concealed to the level defined in the law? If so you are "properly" concealed. Are you comfortably concealed for YOUR purposes? If so, then you are adequately concealed. Whether someone sees or knows you are carrying does not matter in this regard, you should "properly" conceal for your legal jurisdiction (if concealing is required) and you should adequately conceal for your own piece of mind and comfort. What Joe Smith considers "poorly" concealed but may well be properly concealed by LE and adequate by your standards.
Kinda like clothing, what I consider adequate clothing is proper (it covers my body so that I am not naked) and infact it is proper for what I do (cut meat) however my clothing is "poor" by many standards, most see jeans and a tee shirt with work boots to be improper dress. It may be for a Doctor, but not for a butcher.
Two different things are being argued here I believe.
Poorly Concealed - Something that can be easily spotted with little effort.
Poorly Concealed - The act or method of concealing is viewed as being poor in practice. (OP is defending this one.)
As far as the first one goes along with a crude example:
If Jane steals Alice's bicycle and there was an attempt made by Jane to hide said bicycle from Alice by covering it with a couple of old, loose T-shirts and leaving it in her driveway, the chances are that Alice is going to recognize the shape of her bicycle and investigate. Because it was not buried in the back fourty under 8 feet of dirt, Alice finds her bike because it was not hidden well or, poorly concealed. And now, wait for it....wait forrrrr it.......See Jane Run.
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Poor concealment is a matter of opinion. What I consider poor concealment is different from one who follows the C.A.N.T. principle. They may consider telling their significant other that they are carrying to be poorly concealing or perhaps their S.O. discovering they are carrying by hugging them to be poorly concealing whereas I do not. If the only way you can tell I am carrying is by physical contact then I am concealing VERY well, because no one that I do not know gets that close to me. Heck, if all you see is a "suspicious" bulge I consider it adequately concealed-afterall you just see a bulge, not a gun!
Now, on the otherhand I consider the laws concerning "concealed" carry in MS to be silly, but one could very well be concealing in that state whilst every Tom, Dick & Harry could plainly see a gun butt protruding from thieir pocket, waistband, or what have you-but, by law it would still be concealed.
There are only TWO kinds of people in this world; those who describe the world as filled with two kinds of people...and those who don't.
What I want to know is if OC is legal where you are and you don't care if people can see that you are carrying when you go out concealing the way you want (poorly), why don't you just OC so that your overly tight, not-really-a-cover garment doesn't hinder your draw if the need arises?
Fortunate that TN Law allows open or concealed. I carry front pocket, IWB 4:00, or ankle. Being an old fart, I don't much care if I print or not ... its NOT a banana & I am not really happy to see you. :)
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I train in all modes of carry I practice but you would have known that if you read my previous posts.
Seems to me there are two different criteria that we are talking about - legal and literal. From a legal standpoint, if your state allows open carry then how well your sidearm is concealed makes no difference. From a literal standpoint, if your sidearm is not well-covered, or it prints badly, whether by intention or accident, then you are not carrying well concealed. Like I said before, it isn't necessarily good or bad, it just is what it is.
I did read all of you arrogant, argumentative, in-your-face posts.
Answer my question. Why are you covering at all if OC is legal, you're so proud of it and you're not fully concealing? Any cover garment is going to slow you down at least a little. Certainly you realize that being so well trained and all.
I answered your question in posts #1, #26 and #38. So my posts are arrogant because I don't conform to your idea of concealed carry? I never said I was well trained, I said I trained in all modes of carry that I practiced. You added well trained for your own reasons. I do the best I can with what I have.
It's kinda like going to a wedding with an old spaghetti sauce stain on your tie.
Some of the other guests at the wedding will notice it and others won't but, if it dosen't bother you it doesn't bother me.
The fact that the old spaghetti stain on your tie wouldn't bother me personally does not mean that I could call you nicely dressed.
If that makes sense to you at all.
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