A bit of a scare this morning

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    A bit of a scare this morning

    I was standing at the bus stop this morning and, all of a sudden close by, I hear pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. Seven shots in rapid succession. It sounded like it may have been a .22. So, I didn't quite react the way I would have thought. At the sound of the first shot or two I didn't duck, or anything. I just stood there with my head turned towards the sound. And afterwards I ducked down a bit and ran towards an area where I thought I might have cover. And then called 911 and reported it.

    I know going away from the sound and calling 911 were the right thing to do. I just couldn't believe, after I had thought about it more, that I just stood there looking instead of getting down immediately. Maybe its because this is the first time something like this has ever happened and so I'm not conditioned to respond more quickly. I do have to say that my hand did go, almost immediately, to a position where I could get to my pistol if necessary, but I did not bring my shirt up over it, nor did I pull it.

    Anyway, I had to post this just to help me get it out. My heart is still beating a little fast, even though it happened about 1 hours ago.
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    My heart would be beating fast too. I don't think most of us would react as quickly as maybe we should. Getting out of danger and calling 911 is the best thing to do. As you did, hand on the gun is not a bad idea either.
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    Im glad you are ok. That can be a real eye opener.....

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    My old neighborhood (that I just moved from), I would hear shots fired at least once a week. After the first one or two pops, you can kind of figure out how far off they are and get an idea of how quickly you have to react.

    'Soft'- distant- pops mean you don't necessarily have to run for cover. Loud- up close- pops mean 'run like hell' while reaching for your weapon or your phone. Or both, somehow.

    I usually just tended to stop and listen for a second, to see how many pops, or how close. So far as I can tell, you did just fine. Just keep your eyes open, and your head low.
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    It takes a few seconds for the brain to process what's happening. At least when it did, you headed the right direction (away from the danger).
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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    It takes a few seconds for the brain to process what's happening. At least when it did, you headed the right direction (away from the danger).
    That's something most people don't realize. If you haven't experienced something before, you brain takes a second or two to process the information.

    It also illustrates the importance of carrying "Plus 1".

    Anything & everything you can do to shorten the time it takes to process information & get into "ACTION mode is a good thing.

    That's also the primary reason some people prefer OC to CC.

    What if the gunfire you heard was directed at you & you were hit?.

    It would still take a second or two to realize what is happening; and the extra 1-2sec it would take to get pull from concealment & rack a round could be to late. (Action beats REACTION every time!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by accessbob View Post
    I was standing at the bus stop this morning and, all of a sudden close by, I hear pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. Seven shots in rapid succession. It sounded like it may have been a .22. So, I didn't quite react the way I would have thought. At the sound of the first shot or two I didn't duck, or anything. I just stood there with my head turned towards the sound. And afterwards I ducked down a bit and ran towards an area where I thought I might have cover. And then called 911 and reported it.

    I know going away from the sound and calling 911 were the right thing to do. I just couldn't believe, after I had thought about it more, that I just stood there looking instead of getting down immediately. Maybe its because this is the first time something like this has ever happened and so I'm not conditioned to respond more quickly. I do have to say that my hand did go, almost immediately, to a position where I could get to my pistol if necessary, but I did not bring my shirt up over it, nor did I pull it.

    Anyway, I had to post this just to help me get it out. My heart is still beating a little fast, even though it happened about 1 hours ago.
    completely natural to just stand there for a momment if you never experienced something like that before just like another poster said. Good on you for the reaction you did have. Maybe you could practice reacting to gun shots as to incorperate what to do into your muscle memory.

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    City environments make choosing the "right" direction more difficult. Buildings can funnel & bounce sounds (echo) into a twisted, counter-intuitive path. I live in the backwoods so I don't have much room to talk. But I might seek cover as my first priority & worry about distance when I was SURE of the threat's direction. We're glad you're intact.
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    Just about 16 blocks from there, last night, there was a shooting at the light rail platform. Apparently a guy on a bike rode up to a guy sitting and waiting for the train and asked to use his headphones. The guy waiting refused and the guy on the bike fired several shots at the guy waiting for the train. No injuries occurred from the shooting but the waiting guy got cut when he ended up fighting the guy with the gun. I can only imagine the guy with the gun shooting "gangsta style" which would account for not being able to hit the broad side of a barn. So, as scary as it was this morning, I would rather that happen and me not be directly involved than to be the actual intended target. Fortunately I do intend to fight back, the best that I can, should I become an intended target of anyone.

    But I think this may have helped me by making me more aware of what to do.
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    Didn't we have a thread recently about Portland being one of the "safest" places? And a Washington (State) politico who suggested that concealed carriers "leave their gun & permits at home" because the PNW was so...uh, enlightened? Yeah, right.
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    Interesting thread, and responses. Thanks for posting and glad all turned out well for you. I'm thinking, if it were you as the intended target and he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, it would not have ended so well for him.:)
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    It can happen anywhere. Glad you were ok. I was discussing this with my wife the other day, and HB will attest to the training element. It is not something you experience everyday, so it is perfectly natural that you didn't spring into action right away. Unless this is a regular thing in your day to day no one would expect a different reaction. That being said you have experienced it and now you know!

    Glad you are ok, nothing like an adrenalin dump to wake you up!
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    I'm glad you're ok and thanks for the update. I think you reacted very well considering that you had to process what was going on and then act.
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    Guess I have the opposite problem...

    I live in "the country" not way out in the sticks, but far enough out of town that someone is always in their backyard shooting a new gun
    or getting one sighted in for whatever hunting season is about to start.

    It's so commonplace in my 'hood that the dogs don't even bother barking.

    Hopefully you learned something from this experience...

    I know that I have learned that when I'm in the city perhaps I should be aware that some sounds that are normal at home may be something worth paying attention to when I'm out and about.

    Thanx accessbob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcox4freedom View Post
    That's something most people don't realize. If you haven't experienced something before, you brain takes a second or two to process the information.

    It also illustrates the importance of carrying "Plus 1".

    Anything & everything you can do to shorten the time it takes to process information & get into "ACTION mode is a good thing.

    That's also the primary reason some people prefer OC to CC.

    What if the gunfire you heard was directed at you & you were hit?.

    It would still take a second or two to realize what is happening; and the extra 1-2sec it would take to get pull from concealment & rack a round could be to late. (Action beats REACTION every time!)

    I'm glad you're OK ...bob- You done good!

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    Good points on the OODA loop. It happens to all of us. This is one of the reasons training is so important...

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