Driving through a college campus with a handgun?

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    Driving through a college campus with a handgun?

    I am going to be moving soon and will be living close to a college campus. I know that weapons are not permitted on the campus, but have not been able to figure out whether or not I would be fine driving through the campus with my concealed weapon so long as I did not get out of my car. I have looked around and haven't been able to find a definitive answer. I even looked on the university's website, it just says....

    "Use, possession, display, or storage of any weapon, explosive device, or fireworks is prohibited on all land and buildings owned, leased, or under the control of the University or its affiliated or related entities."

    Based on this, I think I would be okay so long as I do not exit my vehicle. All the roads are maintained by the city as far as I know. I live in Arizona if that makes any difference.

    Thanks in advance. This is my first time posting on this forum, and I like what I see on here . Thanks again for any info

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    I would question "possession". Even though you're in your car, you do have possession, and if you are on campus property that may cause a big issue. What I would do is:

    - Consult the state police
    - Consult the Campus authorities

    Consulting those two should give you a definitive answer whether you'd be in the wrong or not.
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    AZ law was changed a couple of years ago to allow the transport and storage of handguns in vehicles on the campuses of the 3 state universities - NAU, ASU, U of A. So if you're on the Scottsdale ASU campus (driving through or parking), you're fine. If you're talking about the ASU downtown campus, to the best of my knowledge there are no streets which are owned by the University, so you'll be fine there, too. Just don't carry your gun into an ASU building downtown. Note that the community colleges like SCC are not part of that ruling. City streets that are not campus driveways, no problem.

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    "AZ law was changed a couple of years ago to allow the transport and storage of handguns in vehicles on the campuses of the 3 state universities - NAU, ASU, U of A. So if you're on the Scottsdale ASU campus (driving through or parking), you're fine. If you're talking about the ASU downtown campus, to the best of my knowledge there are no streets which are owned by the University, so you'll be fine there, too. Just don't carry your gun into an ASU building downtown. Note that the community colleges like SCC are not part of that ruling. City streets that are not campus driveways, no problem."

    Ok sweet, that helped a lot. Yea i'm going to be in Tempe soon, so its ASU's downtown campus. Thats what I was hoping for. Thanks a bunch. On the University website it did say that if its on University property, it needs to be locked and in the trunk, which is fine. I just didn't want trouble driving through campus to get where i'm going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogdan View Post
    I am going to be moving soon and will be living close to a college campus. I know that weapons are not permitted on the campus, but have not been able to figure out whether or not I would be fine driving through the campus with my concealed weapon so long as I did not get out of my car. I have looked around and haven't been able to find a definitive answer. I even looked on the university's website, it just says....

    "Use, possession, display, or storage of any weapon, explosive device, or fireworks is prohibited on all land and buildings owned, leased, or under the control of the University or its affiliated or related entities."

    Based on this, I think I would be okay so long as I do not exit my vehicle. All the roads are maintained by the city as far as I know. I live in Arizona if that makes any difference.

    Thanks in advance. This is my first time posting on this forum, and I like what I see on here . Thanks again for any info
    could this vary state to state? I know you can't have one within like 1000 ft of a school I think. Honestly though in some areas such as where I live I am hardly that far at any given time. I have a private elementry school 1500 feet away from me this second, located on the main road I travel daily. To include all the other schools around me right on through to multiple colleges. I would not be able to go to work, out to eat, shop, visit family and most friends without passing some kind of a school. imo as long as you stay in your car you are fine to drive through. They didn't really think this one through imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BR101 View Post
    - Consult the state police
    - Consult the Campus authorities
    Or just save yourself the trouble and go to Handgunlaw.us

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    It does indeed vary from state to state.
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    Welcome to the forum and thanks for your post. As a graduate of Wayne State University (which is located in Detroit with several streets running through campus) I started to wonder how your question would have applied to me. A quick visit Handgunlaw.us informed me:

    "If Major Streets or Roads travel through the Univ. of MI or Wayne State Univ. you can drive using these
    streets roads in your travels if you do not stop on Campus. That is the understanding I have received. Do use
    caution when traveling through Univ. of MI and Wayne State Univ. Property. They have the legal authority
    to pass ordinances that ban the carrying of firearms on their property."


    What a great resource!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BR101 View Post
    I would question "possession". Even though you're in your car, you do have possession, and if you are on campus property that may cause a big issue. What I would do is:

    - Consult the state police
    - Consult the Campus authorities

    Consulting those two should give you a definitive answer whether you'd be in the wrong or not.
    I would NOT consult the campus authorities. First off, they won't have the answer (90% of the time), and secondly they will tell you what they want the law to be, not what it actually is.
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    Keep in mind that there are other issues in having possession of a gun near a school. There are distinctions between primary, secondary and post secondary schools. The FOPA allows people to transport without fear of being arrested (except in NY and NJ which seem to have a history of ignoring FOPA). The GFSZA (gun free school zone act) allows you to be within 1000 feet of a primary or secondary school under certain conditions ONLY IF YOU HAVE A LICENSE TO CARRY FROM THE STATE IN WHICH THE SCHOOL IS LOCATED = no recipocity allowed. The NRA is trying to push legislative correction for this sillyness:

    (A) It shall be unlawful for any individual knowingly to possess a firearm that has moved in or that otherwise affects interstate or foreign commerce at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone.
    (B) Subparagraph (A) does not apply to the possession of a firearm—
    (i) on private property not part of school grounds;
    (ii) if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so by the State in which the school zone is located or a political subdivision of the State, and the law of the State or political subdivision requires that, before an individual obtains such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license;
    (iii) that is— (I) not loaded; and (II) in a locked container, or a locked firearms rack that is on a motor vehicle; etc.

    The point is, that "school zones" may be differentiated by level and location. What applies to secondary ed does not apply to college and vice-versa. It is an honest to gosh quagmire of legislation....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BR101 View Post
    I would question "possession". Even though you're in your car, you do have possession, and if you are on campus property that may cause a big issue. What I would do is:

    - Consult the state police
    - Consult the Campus authorities

    Consulting those two should give you a definitive answer whether you'd be in the wrong or not.
    Negative! Both will tell you what they think (or simply what they want you to believe) more often than what is true.

    You'd be surprised at the numbers of LEOs who do not know the specifics of the laws (Think about the numbers of statutes in your state--Do anyone know them all?). I've discussed concealed vehicle carry with several LEOs I worked with and nearly all were unaware that most anyone can conceal a handgun inside their vehicle in FL.
    In NO state that I'm aware of does any college have authority to make law, only school policy--which may or may not carry any legal weight--usually only if it mirrors state law.

    Always consult state/local law, even if it takes a lawyer to get the true answer.
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    I know the laws vary quite a bit from state to state, so this probably won't help, but in GA weapons are prohibited in school safety zones, on school property, or at school functions UNLESS it is in your control in the vehicle (carrying in the car) or in a locked container in the vehicle. Perhaps AZ might have a similar law you could look into.
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