Wife wants to pack now, but she is not 21….
This is a discussion on Wife wants to pack now, but she is not 21…. within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; So yeah we got married a little young, that’s a whole other story there.
Anyways I have my CCW and I just turned 22, she ...
September 29th, 2006 12:04 PM
Wife wants to pack now, but she is not 21….
So yeah we got married a little young, that’s a whole other story there.
Anyways I have my CCW and I just turned 22, she is 18 and since we have been together I have introduced her to firearms, safety and proper handling, and she is becoming a very good shot lately, she put 14 rounds in a 12” group, offhand at 25 yards with my S&W 40V (new series sigma) so she obviously cannot get her CCW yet, I cant find anything in my books or online about carrying under 21, except that someone can legally process a handgun over 18 as long as it was a gift or something. we share a car and I cant carry at work so I would like to leave it with her, loaded and holstered in the glove compartment when she drops me off at work. We are in AZ and I know you can keep a hand gun in plain view or holstered under the seat/glove compartment with out a CCW, its just the under 21 thing I am unsure about.
September 29th, 2006 12:18 PM
Check AZ law, In FL you can possess but can't purchase or carry ccw.
Git a holster or rug and put the weapon in the glove box.
just dont forget to get it out and take it in the house when you get home
Good luck , sounds like you have a keeper
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September 29th, 2006 12:19 PM
Check your state's laws online directly. That should give you the info you need. I wouldn't bet her freedom on anything that "someone on the Internet said" unless it was a cited quote from AZ laws.
Congrats on having a lady who understands and values her life!! Sounds very mature for her age.
September 29th, 2006 12:40 PM
Do you want her to be able to use it while in the car? If so, I don't know. If it's so you'll have it when she picks you up, unload it, and reload when you get in.
September 29th, 2006 01:03 PM
Yours would be a question best asked by calling your State Police headquarters.
Call them and ask.
My best guess would be "NO" you cannot do that in AZ.
If the state wants fingerprints and a completed safety program for legal citizen carry at 21 years of age then I'm guessing that "anything goes" for an 18 year old alone in a vehicle would not be allowed.
It's sure not against the law to ask so...make the phone call.
The Department of Public Safety "shall issue a permit to carry a concealed weapon" to a resident at least 21 years old, who satisfactorily completes an approved firearms safety program, submits fingerprints and a fee determined by the Department of Public Safety, and who does not fall into a class of person prohibited to possess a firearm, such as a convicted felon, adjudicated mental incompetent, or illegal alien. The qualification checks shall be completed within 60 days of receipt of the application, and the permit will be issued within 15 working days after completing the checks. The permit is valid for not more than 4 years and is renewable every 4 years.
CLICK HERE AZ State Carry Info
September 29th, 2006 03:05 PM
Dang! I thought that in Arizona, you could carry a gun as soon as you learned to "keep your booger hook off the bang switch"...
Just kidding. Encourage her to carry a gun in whatever fashion is legal, and still affords her the ability to defend herself with it.
September 29th, 2006 03:22 PM
Move to Vermont, my old home state. I think you can carry at 16 there, without a permit. <sigh> If I were there I wouldn't be having to wait for this damn permit notice to arrive in the mail
September 29th, 2006 03:47 PM
The way I have read the law is that you may carry if you are older than 18. It just has to be "open carry."
Call the Sheriff's Office or DPS and ask them.
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September 29th, 2006 03:50 PM
Can she keep one in the car??
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September 29th, 2006 06:06 PM
Scroll down to Chapter 31 and start reading each subsection.
Hope it helps you out.
September 29th, 2006 10:12 PM
Looks like you're SOL until she turns 21...
Title 13-3112 reads in part:
E. The department of public safety shall issue a permit to an applicant who meets all of the following conditions:
1. Is a resident of this state or a United States citizen.
2. Is twenty-one years of age or older.
September 29th, 2006 10:18 PM
Originally Posted by birdman
i dont want to get her a CCW, i just want to know if she can open carry or have a gun loaded, holstered in the car without a ccw and being under 21
September 30th, 2006 12:04 AM
Article II, Section 26 of the Constitution of the State of Arizona:
"The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself or the state shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain, or employ an armed body of men.
Look it up on Arizona's Legislature webpage, rights side. Link:
Title 13, Sec 3112 talks about concealed handguns - the permit they are talking about is your concealed carry permit. As long as she carries the handgun in a holster, in plain view, on legal places, it should be fine.
Disclaimer - not giving legal advice, just my 2 cents.
Last edited by cagueits; September 30th, 2006 at 01:46 AM.
Reason: Add phrase "on legal places"
September 30th, 2006 03:52 AM
no way would I leave live shells in a car in a state as HOT as that. Nope. Not gonna happen....
September 30th, 2006 08:42 AM
In AZ residents must be 21 to CCW, not visitors
North Dakota issues out of state permits at age 18. States that don't issue until 21, don't have an age restriction on out of state permits, and recognize ND permits, will let you carry (grudgingly).
However, AZ requires AZ residents to use an AZ permit.
No CCW in AZ for residents until you're 21. If you don't live in AZ and have a ND permit, it looks like you can carry at 18.
If I were you, I'd unload the gun and leave it in the trunk when she drops you off at work for the next three years.
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