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What Should You Say (or Not) to Police at the Scene If In a Shooting?

This is a discussion on What Should You Say (or Not) to Police at the Scene If In a Shooting? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; A lot of it depends on where the shooting was. If I am at home and my front/back door has obviously been kicked in and ...

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    A lot of it depends on where the shooting was. If I am at home and my front/back door has obviously been kicked in and there is a guy laying there dead or a trail of blood back out the door to where he went. I might just tell the cops, "that stupid POS should have picked a different house". All will be perfectly fine, and I don't even think that I will need any attorney or nonsense like that.

    Now if it is in a public place where things aren't quite so clear, I would be more inclined to give them relavant information, turn my gun over to them and find out when they want me to come down for an interview. If they want me to come down right then, via the squad car, I will go and decide based on any questions they might ask whether or not I will answer them. If it is 2 a.m., no lawyer is going to get out of bed to visit you in the holding cell. Most detectives don't work those hours, (at least in our town/county they don't) so the likelyhood you would be interviewed at that time by one is kind of slim.
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    I heard one lawyer say that every word out of your mouth is $1000 to the lawyer to get you out of the situation...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mano3 View Post
    I heard one lawyer say that every word out of your mouth is $1000 to the lawyer to get you out of the situation...
    But if lawyers always lie can you trust that...
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    The best advice I've ever heard on this is explained to you WRT you Miranda rights, wether your arrested or not, "..... anything you say can and will be held AGINST you..."

    I'm with the Ayoob 'camp' here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad426 View Post
    But if lawyers always lie can you trust that...
    I look at the quote as the more you talk, the harder it will be for you to be aquitted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secret Spuk View Post
    TMI!... There is no reason to tell the police about any medical, or emotional issues in your background. Of course seek medical attention if you really need it. But sharing this kind of information could backfire if you have the bad luck of your investigation being assigned to a lazy, or politically oppoased investigator, or states attorney.
    Quote Originally Posted by detective View Post
    No, you're right, that's YOUR information, I just meant there usually could be good reasons you'd need to go an ER and if you do to ask for an ambulance. If they ask why: "I know I need emergency care."
    I recall reading, I think it was in a this forum, and I think it may have been in a post by Limatunes, that if you ask for medical aide that the police are legally obligated to see that you receive it. Consequently, it is sufficient to say that "I don't feel well and would like to be seen by a doctor". The events alone are sufficient cause for this, meaning you don't need to make up a condition. I think the post went on to say that, if nothing else, that this gets you out of the direct spot light and gives you room to better collect your thoughts before you run your mouth.

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    Armed Citizens' Legal Defense Network will take care of the part where you have to acquire a self defense(Pro 2A) attorney. I became a member about 2 years ago and I believe it is worth the $80 per year membership.
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    I have to say after the shooting is done I have no idea what or how I am going to feel. I may be fine. I may feel I had to the right to defend myself and the shooting isn't going to effect me at all; I don't count on this happening. I may be a mass of crying flesh because I had to shoot someone. The fear I was feeling when I realized someone was in my home may come to the front ground at this point because I sure couldn't think about how afraid I was while I was protecting myself. I may be in a kind of shock. How does one feel after one has to shoot someone because they feel they are in danger? I don't think any of us know this unless we have had to do it. I don't think we know how we would react after we are in no danger.

    We have a castle law. It is presumed self defense unless there is a reason to think otherwise. We do not have to run and hide. We have the right to defend our self. This does not mean we are all going to want to sit down and have tea and finger sandwiches after the deed has been done.

    Maybe some you are all big and brave and strong but I am not sure I would be in any state of mind to be cocky with the officer.

    I have lung problems and I can't imagine this not causing breathing problems for me. Stress does this to me. As I am sitting on the steps or the landing. The person who is shot is on the landing at the bottom of the steps or laying on them or maybe laying in the living room coming to the stairs. What I am going to say probably isn't the first thing on my mind. I am sure the police can figure out who did what. I will answer questions after I get medical help.

    I do not think all the police are out to get us. The police officer standing there could be my daughters friends brother. We live in a little town. We see the officers all around even if we don't personally know them. In a matter of hours the whole town would know and be in shock. We don't have much serious crime in our little town you see. They would take being safe a little more seriously. Those that have firearms in the home would be a little more sure they are doing the right thing. Those that don't might rethink not having a firearm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noway2 View Post
    I recall reading, I think it was in a this forum, and I think it may have been in a post by Limatunes, that if you ask for medical aide that the police are legally obligated to see that you receive it. Consequently, it is sufficient to say that "I don't feel well and would like to be seen by a doctor". The events alone are sufficient cause for this, meaning you don't need to make up a condition. I think the post went on to say that, if nothing else, that this gets you out of the direct spot light and gives you room to better collect your thoughts before you run your mouth.
    Yes, I think you're right about the requirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detective View Post
    Yes, I think you're right about the requirement.
    "Requirement" depends on your locale. Some may call the FD Medic to check you out, and if they determine you need to go to the ER, then they'll take you. If not? And if you go, don't expect to go unescorted. Never assume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mano3 View Post
    I look at the quote as the more you talk, the harder it will be for you to be aquitted.
    Ummmm... My friend Your putting the cart before the horse. The trick is to not get arrested. As I've said in other posts. Self defense is an affermative defense. The burden of proof is not on the state. The burden of proof is on you. In order to claim self defense you must admit to the shooting. In every shooting I've investigated or been a party to the investigation the outcome hinged 90% on physical evidence, and proximity. The only time your statements will hurt you is if you have commited a crime. And if you have commitrd a crime, or appear to have commited a crime... they will be mirandizing you, and taking a statement at the police station.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secret Spuk View Post
    Ummmm... My friend Your putting the cart before the horse. The trick is to not get arrested. As I've said in other posts. Self defense is an affermative defense. The burden of proof is not on the state. The burden of proof is on you. In order to claim self defense you must admit to the shooting. In every shooting I've investigated or been a party to the investigation the outcome hinged 90% on physical evidence, and proximity. The only time your statements will hurt you is if you have commited a crime. And if you have commitrd a crime, or appear to have commited a crime... they will be mirandizing you, and taking a statement at the police station.
    The trick is to not talk to cops who think they are lawyers and/or juries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    The trick is to not talk to cops who think they are lawyers and/or juries.
    The police do get to decide if you commited a crime or not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secret Spuk View Post
    The police do get to decide if you commited a crime or not...
    If that were true, the judicial system would not exist.
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    Good advice cleared it up on the first page.

    Things to NOT say;

    "Well, I figured you guys would like to have the gun empty when you arrived."

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