This is a discussion on Pulled over by a cop within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by mg27 Simple mistake , anyone could of done the same thing, Especially when It's not your vehicle. In Some states you are ...
Interesting to know if your issuing agency disseminates the info. We were told for our issuing agency that the officer has no way of knowing or che king except your permit card or going to the main office of issuing agency. Some have mentioned that their states attach it electronically to their dl so if they run your license they will know.
Let us know what your research turns up. Stay safe. I have done the lights thing as well. Disadvantage of having auto headlights on some vehicles and not others.
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I've heard LEO's complain here if someone hands over their permit when they don't have a firearm on them - kind of a what's the point thing. Of course, in FL there is not duty to inform and permit info is not avail to LEO's unless they specifically call in to ask - our permits are issued from the Dept of Agriculture not from a law enforcement agency.
On the other hand, never do what someone did to a friend of mine when she pulled over someone...he waved the gun over his head back and forth when she pulled him over - TOTALLY freaked her out! The reason he waved the gun...just to let her know he had one...and he had a permit....
If you're not carrying a weapon you don't even need to have your CC permit with you, much less hand it to an officer that has detained you... nor do you need to inform him, even if you are in a "must inform" state. If you don't have your weapon with you, but yet you feel compelled to hand over something other than license / registration / insurance, give him your library card and ask him if he's read any good books lately.
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My State won't let me laminate mine, its just a piece of waterproof plastic paper. It is required to disclose here, so i keep it folded over my DL along with my motorcycle reg and ins papers. I think making it fast and easy for the cops has resulted in more warnings and fewer citations, not that I make a habit of getting pulled over.
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Thanks Eagleks. It's good to know this before any possible run-ins with the law.
I think guns are like insurance. I would rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
A question on VA CC law..
Here's what it says ...
"Informing Law Enforcement of Carry:
The person issued a permit or in possession of a de facto permit must have the permit on his person at all times during which he is carrying a concealed handgun and must display the permit and a photo-identification issued by a government agency of the Commonwealth or by the United States Department of Defense or United States State Department upon demand by a law enforcement officer. "
So if stopped by traffic cops (breaking a traffic rule), do we need to let the officer know that we have a CC permit?
I guess, its not required to say it, if I am not carrying a firearm. But, what about the case when I have a concealed firearm during this stop.. do I say that I have it??
Thanks.
What do you mean by this?
In a lot of states as soon as he gets behind you and runs your plate, he will already know you have a concealed carry permit. This may put him on edge a little more in what is already a stressful situation for an officer. Now, when you fail to tell him that you have a weapon (even when he probably already knows you do), it is going to make the situation even more tense. Now, say you reach in your pocket or your glovebox for your insurance card and registration. You can imagine what the officer might think you are grabbing for. In my opinion, its safer for you and the officer if you tell him you are carrying a weapon. You want to de-escalate the situation. You don't want any misunderstandings between two armed parties in a stressful situation.
My understanding in MT is that it's linked to your vehicles registration, as well as your driver's license. I know the HP officer asked my Mom about it when she was pulled over awhile back (for failing to renew her registration 8 months ago. lol). The only time I was pulled over was out of state, and I was unarmed so it was a moot point anyway.
In North Carolina you must notify any LEO when engaged if you have a CCW permit regardless of carry status. They also will get a hit automatically if they run your DL in this state. If you fail to notify and they discover by the hit it's grounds for revocation on a NC permit.
In Ohio we do not have to notify if we are not armed. They will know I have a ccl as soon as they run my plate. I know this for sure because I called the local police station and had a chat with the chief. He told me you don't have to notify if you aren't armed, I already knew this. If you have questions call and ask. Not all police are after us you know. He said he wished more citizens would pop in or call and ask questions if they don't know for sure. I just had a friend that lives in another part of the state say a cop told him he had to inform no matter what. I said carry the darn laws with you. Seems not all cops know the laws. I and the Chief had a long chat and he said they have special meetings with all the officers anytime a gun law changes. Probably because my little town sure can't afford law suites lol.
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