Head of a Wisconsin group wants concealed carry records made public

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    Jeri Bonavia claims that she wants this information so she can determine if the Wisconsin CCW law is a success. Her thinking is that if you can prove that one or two shooters happened to have a CCW permit then the law is a failure.

    The real test should be has the crime rate in Wisconsin decreased or stayed the same as before the law took effect. That's a much better measurement, even though even that isn't a perfect meter. John Lott's research tends to show that access to guns for the common man tends to deter criminals more than it causes an increase in crime. Research has proven it time and time again.

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    I imagine if she gets her way she will want a list of people that have taken martial arts training since they could be a danger......... She needs to realize that living in fear is not healthy for anyone............
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaDawg View Post
    More "punishment" for the law-abiding citizens. Why is it that CWL holders are villainized by these people?
    If I were to guess, I'd say that it offers otherwise powerless people a means of control over some aspect of their lives. Doing something, even if ineffectual and harmful to others, is something. Little different than temporarily hirelings, elected or not.
    Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
    Thoughts: Justifiable self defense (A.O.J.).
    Explain: How does disarming victims reduce the number of victims?
    Reason over Force: The Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowman View Post
    I imagine if she gets her way she will want a list of people that have taken martial arts training since they could be a danger......... She needs to realize that living in fear is not healthy for anyone............
    Why stop there. Why not get a list of everyone with a prescription for Viagra so they can try to tie it to any rapes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Hawkeye_ View Post
    That is the point, SHE WANTS YOU DEAD. No I am not trolling. Quite truthfully, I believe these anti freedom do-gooders want you and people who think like you to die.
    Ayn Rand had a strong take on this concept, as well. In the end, I believe you (and she) are right in this respect: wanting ultimate trades in liberty for supposed security results in a death of who we are, and certainly would result in a literal death of those who wouldn't be able to effectively defend themselves, were such incremental destruction of liberty allowed to occur.
    Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
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    Reason over Force: The Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowman View Post
    I imagine if she gets her way she will want a list of people that have taken martial arts training since they could be a danger......... She needs to realize that living in fear is not healthy for anyone............
    You're not too far off, Crowman. I used to be a Martial Arts Instructor, still coach judo, & everyone would ask me if my hands were registered, lol. Many Vets don't realize that as a Vet, especially Combat Vets & those trained in the Combat Arms are being watched by the Obama admin & those who support them as potential terrorists. I mean - after all we were trained to (((gulp))) shoot GUNS (((gasp)))!
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