This is a discussion on Gun Permit Laws Eroding within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by SFCDan I have heard of many states starting to place more and more restrictions on licenses such as work purposes and target ...
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My state is governed from Boston, much like New York is from NYC and Albany. They make the rules for us, despite the rules not making sense at all.
I was given a Class A LTC no restrictions which is the best permit I can get in my state. Boston? Hell no, you have to demonstrate a specific need, belong to a gun club and all this other nonsense.
I have a need. I need a gun because the city can not assign a cop to stand by my side 24 hours a day.
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Massachusetts: Where Stricter Gun Laws = Fewer Deaths | Boston Daily
Anti-Gun Article from my state
Evidence and Statistics Supporting the failure of MA Gun Law
Pro Gun article from my state
That's why I hate talking about gun statistics, both sides have statistics to support their argument. It becomes an endless ******* contest.
State A has fewer shooting deaths than State B. That really doesn't mean anything. If the article is supposed to argue a law's success or failure, then you need ONLY look at that state. State A before gun law, and State A after gun law introduced. As we can clearly see in Article 2 (which presents actual data relevant to the argument), State A after gun law was introduced had a rise in gun-related crime.
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The nice thing about Virginia is that an application for a concealed carry permit is no longer at the discretion of the circuit court judge. It used to be that if you lived in a highly urban area of the state it was almost impossible to get a permit. The Virginia Supreme Court changed the rules and Virginia is a "shall issue" state. Unless you have some record of recent lawlessness, they go back at least 3 years, or are prohibited from possessing a firearm because of a past felony and you haven't had your rights restored or you were adjudged mentally defective and haven't been declared sane yet, then in all likelihood a ccw will be issued. It would be nice if we didn't need to make application for a ccw, but then again if you are not a scoundrel then you will get it. Other states like California want you to splain why you want one and it better be a good reason. But I guess the folks in California want it that way!
"Look at the stats if we can believe them.
In 1980, 46% of Americans requested permits. In 2011 that number was at 36%. This is quite telling if the numbers are accurate."
Pure garbage. Depending on the state, between 1% and 4% of the people to through the permitting application each year.
46% of Americans requested permits a decade or more before most states started having permits... have to love logic like that.
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[QUOTE=pittypat21;2434737] I've looked through 36 of these 40 states and only one so far states that the sheriff must determine that the applicant is of good character and a "proper person" to be licensed (your home state of Indiana). In other states with similar mention, this determination is specifically stated to be made by the background check.
My point exactly.
Other than the obvious felony etc, WHO or WHAT determines if a person is of good character?
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