Trip to Yosemite?
This is a discussion on Trip to Yosemite? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I'm planning a trip though Idaho then California. If I'm reading HandgunLaw.us and Yosemite's site correctly, it looks like:
Idaho is cool: they recognize my ...
Post By GetSmith
November 4th, 2012 09:56 PM
Trip to Yosemite?
I'm planning a trip though Idaho then California. If I'm reading HandgunLaw.us and Yosemite's site correctly, it looks like:
Idaho is cool: they recognize my permit.
It looks like it is OK to transport into California in a locked box in our airline's checked luggage then in that locked box in our rental car - though I need to keep it unloaded (I *think* ammo in mags in the same locked box are OK).
It also looks like it would be OK to keep at our campsite / cabin / hotel in ready condition (as that is my 'home' for the time), and unloaded and in locked box to carry to the car and locked in trunk at other times (such as when we're out to eat).
But... I have 17 rounds per magazine - should I bring the snubbie instead? Hey, at least I'm not bringing hollow-points into New Jersey!
Oh... about that... can I transport hollow points through San Francisco from the airport out to Yosemite? The 'bullet ban' seems to be a restriction on gun shops, not tourists.
I am *not* expecting legal advice here (though I know some of you do indeed play lawyers on TV). But if there's a "Dude, you're nuts!" comment I need to hear, I would be happy to receive such advice.
November 4th, 2012 09:56 PM
November 4th, 2012 10:40 PM
Do not bring your high cap mags (over 10 rounds) unless it was OEM with the firearm and dates prior to the law (I think, without looking it up, 2001 or 2002). That would be a Stupid Simple Felony in CA. Not worth it.
Discussion Thread: Questions: California Law on High-Capacity Magazines - THR
Gunwiki: California Law Regarding Magazines
Large-capacity magazine restrictions - Calguns Foundation Wiki
And the Penal Code: CAL. PEN. CODE § 12020 : California Code - Section 12020
November 4th, 2012 11:29 PM
You will love Yosemite. It's practically in my back yard, I'm about 45 minutes from the gate.
Definetly do not bring high capacity mags in, that could make for a longer stay then you were planing.
I'm not aware of any HP bullet ban. I'm not 100% sure but I think ammo should be stored in a seperate case than the gun when in the car. Be very carefull with your gun when you are around the bay area. Only 6 CCW permits are issued in all of San Francisco county, people including the police will freak out if they see a gun. Luckily for me my county is more conservative and we have about 10,000 CCW holders.
Enjoy your trip. Maybe after you see what CA has to offer you will understand why I put up with the liberal politics that are killing my great state slowly.
November 5th, 2012 01:33 AM
The best answers to your questions are found in the question "I'm going to visit California, can I bring my firearms?" on this page, Concealed Firearm Carry Permit in California: Information Database . I live about an hour north of the north gate, 12 miles from the Calaveras Big Trees grove of Redwoods. No palm trees or movie stars here.
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November 5th, 2012 02:05 AM
Your loaded 10 rd mags can be in the same locked container, but without a valid CCW you cant carry while in the park. Campsite would be OK but not in the park without the Valid CCW. I'm not aware of any bullet ban other than armor piercing ammo. And as said above Id be careful while in the Bay Area, They don't even trust there own Leos with a CCW I live about 45 min south of Yosemite and as stated above its a beautiful place. Just out of the park is all open state and federal land. That's open to Ride my horses, Shoot, Hunt, Fish, ETC... you get the idea. Its that part of Ca that make it worth staying. Oh, and still no palm trees but there are a few movie stars that live here!. DR
November 5th, 2012 08:44 AM
As for the Yosemite destination: you're gonna love it.
If you've never been there and are able to handle the many strenuous hikes (presuming you're going when snow hasn't closed the trails/passes), then there are many great spots to see. Seeing the valley from the rim is a real sight, with plenty of spots to choose from, many of which can be gotten to with a vehicle. Hiking up the trail beyond the falls to Half Dome is one you won't forget, as is spending the night up on the Dome. If clear, it's hard to imagine such a view, particularly if the moon's bright. 500 sq miles of granite mountains in the moonlight is hard to describe. The trail to Cloud's Rest and Tuolomne Meadows is beautiful, as are a dozen others. Enjoy the trip!
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November 5th, 2012 11:17 PM
The gun was made in 1993 or 1994 (S&W 915), but coming from California I don't know that I want to trust to the level heads in the big cities. All things considered I'll probably travel light or send a package from Idaho to my local gun shop as I leave.
Originally Posted by ANGLICO
And all the good things you all have said about Yosemite are quite true: it's an old friend. I remember seeing the firefall as a kid (which I think they stopped doing in '64). Anyone reading this thread who hasn't been there - it's a real treat. We're going for our 25th wedding anniversary.
November 6th, 2012 02:38 AM
I was just reading up on this tonight.
You have to follow the state's laws while in federal parks in that state - and you can't carry in a federal park without a concealed weapons permit that is valid in the state the park is in....it doesn't say anything about open carry, but that doesn't really matter since the CCW is a prerequisite.
In CA - nothing over 10 rounds, no pistols/handguns without them being registered with the state - that's if you're a resident/on military orders. There may be different laws for visitors but I seriously doubt it. I'm so glad to be out of there for good. You can't "import" magazines with a capacity over 10 rds.
I think you are basically screwed as far as being able to bring a gun with you at all....but I could be wrong! I would suggest checking on handgunlaw.us and then verifying the links to the pertinent legal documents for the state laws to be sure they are up to date.
In any case it sounds like a great trip - happy 25th!
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