CC'ing when fellow employee is terrified of guns - what to do.

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    1. Offer her a raise to look the other way.
    2. Let her run the business and you stay away and spend more time with your boys.

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    You made the first mistake by not concealing properly. Now you have to live with that error.

    Your next decision is... what is more important...your excellent employee or your gun. You decide.
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    Seems to me that you need to do two things:

    1. Improve your carry method so it is not visible.
    2. Don't confirm that you carry if asked. It wasn't any of her business in the first place, and there was no reason to confirm her suspicions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sig35seven View Post
    You made the first mistake by not concealing properly. Now you have to live with that error.

    Your next decision is... what is more important...your excellent employee or your gun. You decide.
    he is the owner he doesn't have to keep the ball in his court she is the one with the problem not him. Put the ball in her court and let her decide. As someone else posted there are billions of other people in the world someone can take her spot if talking doesn't seem to work. If her views/fears are that strong and she leaves it is her loss more then his.
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    I think:

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    After reading 6 pages I have come to the conclusion I am a real simple man. I would not stop carrying, I would address her concerns, and leave it at that. I honestly do not know what the hard part of this is. How many of you here would change the way they carry or not carry at all because of an employee's discomfort?
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    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    After reading 6 pages I have come to the conclusion I am a real simple man. I would not stop carrying, I would address her concerns, and leave it at that. I honestly do not know what the hard part of this is. How many of you here would change the way they carry or not carry at all because of an employee's discomfort?
    It wouldn't require any decision making effort for me.

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    I had almost the same situation last year. One of my managers jokingly put her arm around me & put her hand directly on my EDC (M&P40C in a Minotaur MTAC) under my untucked shirt. The situation went from goodhearted & joking to utter terror in a flash. I explained that I've always CC'd at work (my business) and would continue to do so. After some discussion, she flatly said that she hated guns. So, I told her that if an armed robbery occurs (retail business), I would not use my weapon to keep her from being shot by the BG. She told me that in that situation, I could use my gun to save her life, but she hated guns & didn't want them around her. I still CC everyday, all day and she's no longer an employee.
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    Seems like you have misplaced loyalty. She's ready and willing to throw away the 15 years, no point in you clinging to it. This is a form of blackmail, you quit carrying or she will quit. Blackmail - plain and simple. Over something that is none of her business. You make your own decision, but think about being manipulated in the future.
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    I'm surprised by how many people have no regard for the employee. In spite of her fear, she is still a person and deserves to be treated with dignity and respect. The fact she has a different opinion than the owner of the company is not even close to a good reason to treat her like trash and send her looking for another job. It sounds like the OP cares about this employee as a person, as any good employer should. I think the best course of action is to try and help her sort out her fear without giving in to her irrational demands that he stops carrying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steffen View Post
    I'm surprised by how many people have no regard for the employee. In spite of her fear, she is still a person and deserves to be treated with dignity and respect. The fact she has a different opinion than the owner of the company is not even close to a good reason to treat her like trash and send her looking for another job. It sounds like the OP cares about this employee as a person, as any good employer should. I think the best course of action is to try and help her sort out her fear without giving in to her irrational demands that he stops carrying.
    Who here is treating her like trash? And folks have been giving the OP advice on what to do. In fact, I did not see apost that did not treat her with respect. The worst statements were that if she does not agree with him having a gun there are other folks that need jobs.
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    Tell her to make a decision and live with the consequences. No one employee is irreplaceable.
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    Maybe she would be better suited working for a large company where CC is not permitted. She needs to respect your right to carry as a small business owner. She does have a choice.

    Another persons phobia of guns isn't a good reason to stop carrying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steffen View Post
    I'm surprised by how many people have no regard for the employee. In spite of her fear, she is still a person and deserves to be treated with dignity and respect. The fact she has a different opinion than the owner of the company is not even close to a good reason to treat her like trash and send her looking for another job. It sounds like the OP cares about this employee as a person, as any good employer should. I think the best course of action is to try and help her sort out her fear without giving in to her irrational demands that he stops carrying.
    Treating her like trash??? Not at all. Simply not indulging her irrational demands. Looking for another job would be her call.
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