Road Rage...how far do you take it?

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    Anyone blocking me in on the road will see the business end of my pistol. Anyone breaking the window on my car will be met with gunfire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ep1953 View Post
    Anyone blocking me in on the road will see the business end of my pistol. Anyone breaking the window on my car will be met with gunfire.
    Well, since I stayed at the Holiday Inn Express in Kodak I guess I'm qualified to say, "say what?"
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    Best course of action after reading the article, and many, many similar stories, would be to not even 'jesture' at the punks.

    As for being chased and forced off the road by TWO automobiles working together, 911 would already have been dialed. My sidearm would come into play, how I employ it would be a question but a bat hits glass it's on. I'd already be concerned this punk and his punk-offspring were armed regardless. Very scary situation.
    I'd do everything I possibly could to stay mobile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangochuck View Post
    All interesting comments, and of course, as events unfold you'd better to be able to make the correct decisions in a couple of areas in split seconds.

    Since I'm carrying, I know I'd have a way of turning the tables...but when? The credo is only as a last resort when the situation approachs endangering my life. Again...when? In this situation the guy got smacked around, but not seriously hurt, so I'm not so sure that drawing would fly with LEO's or the courts in this case. I draw and I may be open to brandishing or assault so I'd better make sure it's justified and I'm ready to take it to the next level pronto.

    He was able to drive away, car bashed, him bashed, them arrested, but no one left bleeding with .45 cal holes in them and so, and I realize it's rhetorical, but quite possibly that was the best course of action armed or not. I would say that if batman had shown he was about to use it on me after he got done with the car...he's likely to be approaching room temperature at that very instance. That, IMHO, would fly with any LOE or court.
    How would you EVER know if they'd stop at 'knocking around?????' If that's your attitude, why carry a firearm at all? (Assuming you do, since you are on this forum, but perhaps not).

    Granted, I am a woman and may have some consideration of disparity of force but I will not allow someone to put their hands on me. In a true SD situation, they have absolutely no right to do so and I have no idea why they would but also have no idea why I'd believe they'd just 'knock me around' and then leave. They could easily disable my ability to defend myself with a single punch or kick. And there was more than one of them. Gross bodily harm is also a felony and in my state I can use deadly force to stop such.
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    In such situations....and dont we all see them all the time?....I ignore them. And unfortunately, even that can pizz them off....some people are just so beat down in life that they have to come out on top somewhere...and big vehicles and highways seem to be their opportunity.

    I avoid as much as possible...slow down, whatever. If, IF they get me into a situation where I cant retreat or escape, such as forced off the road or parked in, I will use either of the lethal weapons I have at my disposal....my vehicle or my firearm. The minute it seems like they are attempting to get into my vehicle....such as bat/hammer/tire iron/fists on my window, they will first see my phone taking their pics & calling 911 and then my firearm aimed at them. And it will be used to prevent their entry into my vehicle. Why would I assume they just want 'to knock me around' and then let me go? Anyone with that poor judgement and such anger issues is a good bet to continue beyond that.
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    9M...so are you saying that in this situation the BG's would be dead, as opposed to arrested, if you had been the Honda driver? I'd submit that is a big responsibility given the outcome.

    My reason for posting was to see where the threshold of pulling the trigger stood with different folks, so for that I appreciate your views. As well, I am in way opting a "right" course of action. As you know we're all accountable for our decisions, so in our own best interest we'd better make sure it is measured with what we can walk away from and be justified.

    BTW...I do carry. Springfield XDs, .45 cal. IWB.

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    Coming at me with a bat even sitting in my truck, I am fearing for my life. Too old to fight even one guy, no way I'm taking on three without a little help from my girl Ruthanne. On a busy highway, on the shoulder and holeshotting back out into traffic is a really good way to die and take someone else with you while the BG's jump back in their cars and roll away. Threat begins when punk 1 gets out with the bat and approaches. Dial 911 throw the phone on the seat yell to the operator I am being attacked and TCB.
    I was thinking while rereading my post whether I would stay seated or jump out to have room to maneuver. Hopefully exiting my vehicle brandishing my weapon might make them turn tail and run. Waiting to get clobbered, not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangochuck View Post
    9M...so are you saying that in this situation the BG's would be dead, as opposed to arrested, if you had been the Honda driver? I'd submit that is a big responsibility given the outcome.

    My reason for posting was to see where the threshold of pulling the trigger stood with different folks, so for that I appreciate your views. As well, I am in way opting a "right" course of action. As you know we're all accountable for our decisions, so in our own best interest we'd better make sure it is measured with what we can walk away from and be justified.

    BTW...I do carry. Springfield XDs, .45 cal. IWB.
    Maybe they wouldnt be dead...maybe they would have seen me take their pics and call 911 with my phone and then if that didnt stop them, they might have stopped if they saw me draw my firearm.

    If they had me *trapped* (and if I could leave that situation, by driving away after they also stopped, I would) and I could not leave and they were taking those steps to attack me? I guess they'd better hope my aim sucks.

    The minute I believed that they could disable my vehicle (my only safety) or get into it to get their hands on me....there is an imminent lethal threat to me.

    Is it your opinion I should wait until they get their hands on me?
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    Your response is out of line with your "considering the outcome" statement. If you ask a person a what if you can't judge their reaction by the actions of another. Each of us would react differently to the situation. What if the Honda owner had been armed? Consider that outcome.
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    9M...I hear ya, and I'd certainly hope that when you chose to draw and fire that you're aim didn't suck....'cause you felt your life was in danger. OK, I accept that and hope the jury would too, because as you know living in the Puget Sound area, you would be charged.

    As for waiting to "get their hands on you", I'd submit that if that were the threshold, a whole lot of us would be in the clinker. You know the old equal force argument.

    And as I said I wasn't advocating for any particular response, rather thinking this particular situation was a good one for all of us to consider ahead of time. Most folks don't travel with a gun at their finger tips. It's a right we chose to exercise and with it comes a whole different set of rules. Hope ya agree.

    Velo...I agree with your statement. As for if he'd have been armed...bingo, that's exactly what I was hoping we'd think about.

    As for my "considering the outcome" statement, my intentions were to hold killing someone and that responsibility against what actually happened in this actual situation. Again, just to hear what others responded as well as provoke thinking ahead of time. This is the type of thing that, as many have pointed out, we could run into if we even just "gesture" on the highway these days.

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    I use the WTH gesture frequently. We have signs that state the far left lane is for passing only. Pet peeve is the idiot who won't get on the gas and actually pass someone when they are only going only slightly faster than the car they are passing. They never look to see how fast the closing rate is on the traffic behind or care if they stack up ten cars with this behavior. They get "the look" when I finally do pass them. There is one guy whom I pass if I'm running late. He gets in the "fast lane" at speed and rides there regardless of how many cars stack up. I don't drive fast, just efficiently.
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    Demolition Derby...
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    You'd be surprised what people with a "nothing to lose" mindset will do, or at least try to do to get their point across. Being boxed and forced off the road is a very real possibility.

    If it were me, I'd have thrown it in reverse and gunned it. Avoidance, first and foremost. If that option failed, my gun would very much be in-hand. At the first sign of a weapon or an attempt to enter and/or remove me from the vehicle I'd make it clear that I was ready to cash the check they had written.

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    I find it ludicrous that the trooper makes it sound like the whole thing is the victim's fault!

    Until we - as a society - start showing these animals that their lives are on the line the minute the exhibit violence, we will see more and more of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldshellback View Post
    Best course of action after reading the article, and many, many similar stories, would be to not even 'jesture' at the punks.
    THIS....

    Plus, look at the guys sig line: "(Sometimes) a fight avoided is a fight won. ... claude clay"

    I drive a F-250 w Diesel. It has totally changed my driiving habits. You simply can't jam the throttle, like you can a regular gas one. I'm defensive driving ALL the time.

    Take the high road. Don't look at them, Don't flip them off, and Don't even "wave". You are in control here. You have removed ANY satisfaction of them knowing you have acknowledged even their existence. Failing to attract my attention, they move on, and go pick on someone else.

    Also, per one person's later post. If someone "parks" in the left lane..... I simply go around them. Again, no looks, no flipping, no nothing. Just move on. Certainly NEVER get ahead of them, and give them brake lights. Give plenty of space. Often times, they'll just go Oops, and move over after you have passed them on the right.

    FAILING ALL THIS. IF I still managed to get trapped..... and can't drive out. LOCK THE DOOR's. 911 to start the ball rolling, and continous talking to the dispatcher. Get it all on tape. I don't think I'll have time to take pictures. Will I shoot as the glass is cracked?? Probally not. As the glass starts to fail, is when the safety comes off, and I start defending.

    OK. I've said my piece. I'd love to hear whith others have to say about my post.

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