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This is a discussion on This is EXACTLY what I dislike about some people!!!!! within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by dben002 All I would venture to this conversation is that if carrying a gun with you is a 24/7 compulsion and you ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dben002 View Post
    All I would venture to this conversation is that if carrying a gun with you is a 24/7 compulsion and you find you have trouble functioning without a gun at arms reach that in itself may be a problem. There are tons of places you are not allowed to carry your gun. Do you avoid going to these places for that reason? just saying........................................
    I would say that it's not a problem. People want to have the most efficient self-defense weapon with them whenever possible,and that's a problem?
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    Re: This is EXACTLY what I dislike about some people!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gbboykin View Post
    I'm a slight homophobe and he's well, gay. No disrespect. He is actually in the Navy now too, go figure. So back to the gay thing, I figured that's pretty open minded in itself.
    This thread just took a sharp turn.

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    Wow. Weird thread....

    I have never had anyone try to refute my reasons for carrying - I present it as like having a seatbelt or a fire extinguisher. Better have it and not need it than need it and not have it. It's a personal choice everyone can make.

    If everyone in society was armed - maybe some more people would be shot - at first. Then only smart/careful/responsible people would be left...
    We're a long ways from that ever happening though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gbboykin View Post
    I agree with everything said here. Well I knew him in college as an acquaintance, never hung out with him. I'm a slight homophobe and he's well, gay. No disrespect. He is actually in the Navy now too, go figure. So back to the gay thing, I figured that's pretty open minded in itself.
    Well, being gay or not really dosn't matter....... being gay and in the Navy takes a strong enough individule in it's own right, but that's neither here nor there. He don't like others carrying AND he's in the service...... he's being exposed to guns wether he likes it or not. Go with that (it IS common ground) or, like I and others have suggested, drop it and carry on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Shot View Post
    i can't recall anyone ever actually saying that. interesting.

    cheers
    i thought the op was being facetious(sp)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dben002 View Post
    All I would venture to this conversation is that if carrying a gun with you is a 24/7 compulsion and you find you have trouble functioning without a gun at arms reach that in itself may be a problem. There are tons of places you are not allowed to carry your gun. Do you avoid going to these places for that reason? just saying........................................
    He made it pretty clear that there are places he does not and can't carry. So...not sure where the 24/7 compulsion comment is coming from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by d2jlking View Post
    He made it pretty clear that there are places he does not and can't carry. So...not sure where the 24/7 compulsion comment is coming from?
    Amen, I don't understand. Kinda weird...

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    d2jlking....."I like to exercise my second amendment right at all times". plus the tone of the post indicates he wants the gun at work but can't..getting gas, and doing normal everyday things...doing things inside the house........as if he is sort of indicating that he feels the need to have a weapon at all times.

    Now, you may not agree and that's fine, I understand, but I think you also may realize there are those that carrying a gun is a compulsion they can't control. I know a few myself and you probably do also.
    There are two types of people who carry concealed weapons...Responsible ones and Irresponsible ones...which are you...

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    Re: This is EXACTLY what I dislike about some people!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by dben002 View Post
    d2jlking....."I like to exercise my second amendment right at all times". plus the tone of the post indicates he wants the gun at work but can't..getting gas, and doing normal everyday things...doing things inside the house........as if he is sort of indicating that he feels the need to have a weapon at all times.

    Now, you may not agree and that's fine, I understand, but I think you also may realize there are those that carrying a gun is a compulsion they can't control. I know a few myself and you probably do also.

    You make it sound like carrying in the shower is a "bad" thing.

    It's not, right?

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    Thunder71....As long as the weapon is in a zip lock freezer bag it's ok I guess......(visual going on here about OWB carry)...........
    There are two types of people who carry concealed weapons...Responsible ones and Irresponsible ones...which are you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gbboykin View Post
    Now in your glove compartment might be a little more acceptable, but I don't want to live in a country where everyone walks around with guns. That could easily spell disaster.
    I'd tell your friend, "I don't want to live in a country where BG's walk free. But guess what? They do everyday, everywhere, they carry guns, and they do bad stuff to good people, everyday, everywhere." I agree with others that this is not a winnable argument. The fact that "S" claims to be okay with guns, but puts arbitrary restrictions on the location of the gun (glove box vs. on your hip), really shows this person is truly ignorant of firearms. As if your firearm is somehow safer in glove box, or your home, or wherever, or they think your firearm is somehow more dangerous once you step outside your home or car. Please, I've seen this debate before.

    It's the "not in my backyard" argument. These type of people advocate for homeless shelters, sober-living homes, half-way houses, sex offender homes, and the like, but as soon as they find out they're going up in their neighborhood, they fight against it. Same with guns. They say they're pro 2A, as long as it's not anyone they know, and as long as people exercise their rights within their self-conceived, arbitrary restrictions.

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    Religion, politics, and firearms.

    The three things that are completely pointless to argue about. Just do your thing. You're not changing their opinion. They aren't changing yours.
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    Re: This is EXACTLY what I dislike about some people!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by llmstratocaster View Post
    Religion, politics, and firearms.

    The three things that are completely pointless to argue about. Just do your thing. You're not changing their opinion. They aren't changing yours.
    In a free society it is important to change minds for power but for mear civility it's only necessary to understand the argument.

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    It's GREAT to have (finally) reached both the age & level of maturity to stop trying to convince anyone of anything. Winston Churchill said it best, "The truth is irrefutable. The cynics may scoff & the ignorant may disagree. But, at the end of the day, there it is." I am clearly convinced on my 2nd Amendment position. What others believe...is none of my concern.
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    Well just as you want to exercise your 2nd Amendment right he want's to exercise his 1st Amendment right to free speech and his opinion.

    The simple fact is many people don't like firearms as much as others, for whatever reason but it is there right. Who am I or any of us to say that they are ignorant, sheep, stupid or uninformed? Some people do not like motorcycles for various reasons ok great don't ride them. If you do not like Catholics ok fine don't go to mass. Don't like orange shirts....you get the point.

    He is not going to change your mind and you are not going to change his, leave it at that.
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    "A first rate man with a third rate gun is far better than the other way around". The gun is a tool, you are the craftsman that makes it work. There are those who say "if I had to do it, I could" yet they never go out and train to do it. Don't let stupid be your mindset. Harryball 2013

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