This is EXACTLY what I dislike about some people!!!!!

This is EXACTLY what I dislike about some people!!!!!

This is a discussion on This is EXACTLY what I dislike about some people!!!!! within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; So, I'm on the social media and I guess everybody can have an opinion especially if you express yours openly. To set this up, I ...

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    This is EXACTLY what I dislike about some people!!!!!

    So, I'm on the social media and I guess everybody can have an opinion especially if you express yours openly. To set this up, I wrote a post about not being able to carry my weapon to work (military base) and this is how the conversation went....

    Of course names will be changed for privacy act. Just to let you know B is me.

    B- "Doesn't like the fact I can't carry a firearm to work..."
    S- "Why do you need to?"
    B- "I like to exercise my second amendment right at all times. Sometimes, I stop places before going home (now that we can wear NWU's around town) and even in traffic or getting gas. You never know when an idiot will "act a fool"."
    S- "I don't think that's a great reason. Sorry B. I completely respect your right to own a gun, but there's no reason to have it always strapped to your side, especially on a military base. Now in your glove compartment might be a little more acceptable, but I don't want to live in a country where everyone walks around with guns. That could easily spell disaster."
    B- "Could spell disaster with uneducated ignorant people that don't know proper gun control. I agree. I don't want it on my side while on base doing my day to day activities at work. I want to keep it in my vehicle while in the squadron, but I can't. I see no need for it while I work. (especially when we have MA's at our gate and you need a line badge to get in the gates). Strange things have been known to happen to and from work. It would just make me feel comfortable to have a firearm in my vehicle and with me wherever I go."

    Ok, It pisses me off a little, even though everyone is entitled to their own opinion about guns. I open carry every single day while I'm at home doing chores and what not, also conceal carry. I'm not sure if I handled this right or said the proper things. If anybody has their own opinions about how I handled this or how I could handle similar situations in the future please share!!

    Thx,

    B


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    Respecting the right to own a gun but restricting it based on opinion?
    You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face. You are able to say to yourself, "I have lived through this horror. I can take the next thing that comes along." . . . You must do the thing you think you cannot do. Eleanor Roosevelt

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    Quote Originally Posted by mulle46 View Post
    Respecting the right to own a gun but restricting it based on opinion?
    Not sure I follow.

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    Ah...move on, you won't ever win that battle and it isn't worth the effort. Funny thing is, you'll be the one protecting their gun opposing "another name for burro" should the SHTF.
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    No disrespect but you're wasting your time arguing with people about guns. For the most part, they have formed their opinions out of emotion and the most rational argument in the world will not sway them. Now if they come to you, on the other hand, and they have an honest inquiry because they want to give the matter a true assessment then by all means educate them about the matter. If they aren't, however, of the persuasion to approach the issue with an open mind then you're going to find yourself battling a whole barrel of logical fallacies. There's a reason they don't carry the same as you do, they have a different mindset. If they had the same mindset as you, they'd probably be carrying all of the time as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gbboykin View Post
    Not sure I follow.
    from your op,s said "I don't think that's a great reason."think implies opinion
    You gain strength, courage, and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face. You are able to say to yourself, "I have lived through this horror. I can take the next thing that comes along." . . . You must do the thing you think you cannot do. Eleanor Roosevelt

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    Re: This is EXACTLY what I dislike about some people!!!!!

    Yep, not worth filling out the butthurt form.

    Just in case...
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    OK G-kin...... I'm with ya on the not being able to carry on base. I'm a recently retired squid and sidearms are just a no-no on base.

    As for social media, chances are slim of changing their point-of-view via that medium anyway, but just telling someone you 'exercising your rights' isn't convincing to me, much less somebody set in their anti state of mind. Why do you want to carry to and from work? Why should he/she not be alarmed by this (i.e. YOU carrying a gun)? Why does your social-media friend NOT like YOU carrying?........

    .... see where I'm going with this?

    Obviously it's a federal installation, no guns. I can't stand it either...... but convincing another with a hard mindset of "No gun for anybody" may need more than a back-n-forth over smartphones.

    If this person is open-minded enough and a close enough buddy introduce him/her to your firearms in an easy, non-threatening manner...... even a range date maybe. Explain yourself and your reasonings when the discorse can be open.

    Now, having said that, some folks ain't gonna change their minds. Drop it and carry on. Whatever they think dosn't match up with you so to heck with convincing 'em.
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    All I would venture to this conversation is that if carrying a gun with you is a 24/7 compulsion and you find you have trouble functioning without a gun at arms reach that in itself may be a problem. There are tons of places you are not allowed to carry your gun. Do you avoid going to these places for that reason? just saying........................................
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    Quote Originally Posted by mulle46 View Post
    from your op,s said "I don't think that's a great reason."think implies opinion
    Roger. I understand now.

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    Remind them (s) of Fort Hood and all the school shootings thru out the country. Places where guns are prohibited are the hunting grounds for those who wish to do harm. I have the same problem, no weapons on company property. I drive 60 highway miles each day to and from work. I park in a public parking lot at work. In Texas it is illegal to enforce this policy, but there are no penalties for doing so. That leaves me unprotected and unarmed most of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldshellback View Post
    OK G-kin...... I'm with ya on the not being able to carry on base. I'm a recently retired squid and sidearms are just a no-no on base.

    As for social media, chances are slim of changing their point-of-view via that medium anyway, but just telling someone you 'exercising your rights' isn't convincing to me, much less somebody set in their anti state of mind. Whay do you want to carry to and from work? Why should he/she not be alarmed by this (i.e. YOU carrying a gun)? Why does your social-media friend NOT like YOU carrying?........

    .... see where I'm going with this?

    Obviously it's a federal installation, no guns. I can't stand it either...... but convincing another with a hard mindset of "No gun for anybody" may need more than a back-n-forth over smartphones.

    If this person is open-minded enough and a close enough buddy introduce him/her to your firearms in an easy, non-threatening manner...... even a range date maybe. Explain yourself and your reasonings when the discorse can be open.

    Now, having said that, some folks ain't gonna change their minds. Drop it and carry on. Whatever they think dosn't match up with you so to heck with convincing 'em.
    I agree with everything said here. Well I knew him in college as an acquaintance, never hung out with him. I'm a slight homophobe and he's well, gay. No disrespect. He is actually in the Navy now too, go figure. So back to the gay thing, I figured that's pretty open minded in itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dben002 View Post
    All I would venture to this conversation is that if carrying a gun with you is a 24/7 compulsion and you find you have trouble functioning without a gun at arms reach that in itself may be a problem. There are tons of places you are not allowed to carry your gun. Do you avoid going to these places for that reason? just saying........................................
    Schools-nope
    School buses-nope
    Polling places- once every four years
    Courts-nope
    Court offices-nope
    Racetracks-nope
    Secured airport areas-nope
    Within 1,000 feet of the premises of an execution on the day of execution-nope
    Any business where alcohol is sold if more than half of their revenue is from the sale of alcohol for on-premises consumption-don't drink
    Locations where high school, college or professional sporting events are taking place-nope
    Hospitals-nope
    Nursing homes-nope
    Amusement parks-nope
    Places of worship-nope
    Government meetings, if signs are posted prohibiting them-base, everyday.
    Any business that posts signs prohibiting handguns on their premises based on criminal trespass laws- rarely run into these in OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gbboykin View Post
    I'm a slight homophobe
    i can't recall anyone ever actually saying that. interesting.

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