This is a discussion on Another Employee's Reward for Stopping a Crime within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; AutoZone employee fired after taking action against...
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I'd rather be lucky than good any day
There's nothing that will change someone's moral outlook quicker than cash in large sums.
Majority rule only works if you're also considering individual rights. Because you can't have five wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for supper.
Zero tolerance = zero intelligence once again. I wish some of these corporate types would use their actual brains once in a while. I hope someone sees this and hires this fellow for a better job than AutoZone.
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I'll play the other side, AutoZone does not train their employees in self-defense. In their minds, Most of their staff are not as competent as Devin McClean. Think lawyers and liabilities. There are a lot of idiots out there and its a safe bet AutoZone employs a few.
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Dang.......
Hopefully another business picks him up.
"Just getting a concealed carry permit means you haven't commited a crime yet. CCP holders commit crimes." Daniel Vice, senior attorney for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, quoted on Fox & Friends, 8 Jul, 2008
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Hopefully a company with brains will hire an obviously valuable employee. Not much, if anything is this black and white. What is the saying, No good deed goes unpunished?
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Originally Posted by GraySkies
I think that was GraySkies point that you might've missed: a few of them are at HQ. But seriously, can you cite one case in which an employer incurred penalty as a consequence of responsible self defense by an employee? It's heavy-handed and dimwitted risk management. Like general gun bans and prohibitions, the facts don't bear out the fears.
-Blackstone’s Commentaries 145–146, n. 42 (1803) in District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008)Americans understood the right of self-preservation as permitting a citizen to repel force by force
when the intervention of society... may be too late to prevent an injury.
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Companies like loyalty and initiative that doesn't expose the company to millions of dollars in damages if something goes wrong during your defense of their property. Stay within the bounds of company policy or choose another place to work.
ETA: there have been plenty of worker's compensation payouts when an employee got injured trying to resist a robbery.
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Save lives ... get sacked. IMO, it's typical corporate/company head-in-nether-regions type intolerance for standing up for what's right.
Way to go AutoZone. Not.
Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
Thoughts: Justifiable self defense.
Explain: How does disarming victims reduce the number of victims?
Reason over Force: The Gun is Civilization (Marko Kloos).
NRA, GOA, OFF, ACLDN.
The "just give them what they want" policies help encourage crime, not discourage it. Makes my blood boil just thinking about it. Our society is so screwed up.
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Too bad, I did a lot of business with AutoZone....not anymore. I respect their right to form their own policies, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with it. Just sent corporate a message letting them know, but I doubt any of them will care.
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Just waitin' for Suntzu on this one.
These companies blow.
Like Pistology stated in post #7
It's heavy-handed and dimwitted risk management. Like general gun bans and prohibitions, the facts don't bear out the fears.
Just the facts Ma'm.
The corporations don't want to hear the facts, it gums up the agenda.
That to be sucessful in CORPORATE AMERIKA, one has to get along, to go along.
Welcome to the NWO.
Sent them an e mail.
Heres what I sent;
AutoZone employee fired after taking action against “Fake Beard Bandit”
Your corporate policy is pathetic, as is all companies with these idiotic policies of no weapons.
The fear of lawsuits and huge liabilities is a misconception, which can not be proven to be correct.
It is an unfounded fear, which is not bourne out of facts.
Go ahead and cite me one time you have been sued, or had to pay out a substantial amount of money.
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/con...uestid=1878588
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I suppose the guy could have gone around to the front and waited for the "fake beard bandit" to come out of the store... thereby circumventing the corporate policy... of Zero tolerance "inside the store"
do the right thing cause it's the right thing to do....
That's how I was raised... and apparently this young man as well... good on him... I hope he finds another job soon.
Read:
The Gift of Fear by Gavin De Becker
In The Gravest Extreme by Massad Ayoob
The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn
From every encounter or scenario; yours, someone else's, real, or not...
LEARN SOMETHING FROM IT
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