Distinctions needed please....................

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    Distinctions needed please....................

    Can anyone explain (so my pea brain can comprehend) the difference in the Glock .45 ACP and the Glock GAP. why one over the other ?? difference ??
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    The rounds have the same size bullet, the case sizes are slightly different with each round. They are not interchangable. The 45 ACP ammunition, at least in my area, is more universally available and costs a bunch less.

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    Distinctions needed please....................

    The .45 G.A.P. (often called the .45 "GAP") pistol cartridge was designed by Ernest Durham, an engineer with CCI/Speer, at the request of firearms manufacturer Glock to provide a cartridge that would equal the power of the .45 ACP but was shorter to fit in a more compact handgun, and with a stronger case head to reduce the possibility of case neck blowouts. G.A.P. is an acronym for "Glock Automatic Pistol", and the .45 G.A.P. is the first commercially introduced cartridge identified with Glock.


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    A Shooting Times article on the .45GAP should help: search, such as this one.

    Supposedly similar performance to .45ACP, but in a shorter case format, allowing for a smaller, lighter gun.
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    why am I confused...... G30 and G36 .45auto subcompact... same size as G39 GAP ????? so why a different cartridge ???? I is confused ???
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    I have always wondered, why the 45 G.A.P. Have not seen any guns or ammo anywhere. This one may be finished before it starts.
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    While the overall dimensions are the same, the grip should be smaller in the GAP - purpose of the cartridge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dben002 View Post
    why am I confused...... G30 and G36 .45auto subcompact... same size as G39 GAP ????? so why a different cartridge ???? I is confused ???
    They aren't the same size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgael View Post
    I have always wondered, why the 45 G.A.P. Have not seen any guns or ammo anywhere. This one may be finished before it starts.
    This cartridge has been around for almost a decade.

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    Basically the .45GAP was the answer the the question no one ask, or cared about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dben002 View Post
    why am I confused...... G30 and G36 .45auto subcompact... same size as G39 GAP ????? so why a different cartridge ???? I is confused ???
    Smaller grip circumfrence with the .45 G.A.P. due to the shorter length of the G.A.P. cartridge versus the longer regular .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol). The idea is to let people with smaller hands (e.g., female law enforcement officers) shoot a full-power .45 cartridge (the G.A.P. puts out the same .45 bullet at the same velocity as the full-length .45 ACP cartridge).
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcclarke View Post
    Smaller grip circumfrence with the .45 G.A.P. due to the shorter length of the G.A.P. cartridge versus the longer regular .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol). The idea is to let people with smaller hands (e.g., female law enforcement officers) shoot a full-power .45 cartridge (the G.A.P. puts out the same .45 bullet at the same velocity as the full-length .45 ACP cartridge).
    OK, I admit I haven't checked Glock's website, which will probably answer this, but don't the Short Frame versions accomplish the same thing while still using the .45 ACP (and other well established cartridges)? I am running on the assumption that the grip frame of, say the G30SF is approximately the same size as say a G38. Is this correct?

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    let's broaden it.........why a 45GAP, .40 Cal, 10mm.........when you can shoot a .45acp ? All I ever need.......

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    As posted, the .45GAP uses the same bullets and replicates the ballistics of the .45ACP, but uses a shorter case and shorter overall length, similar to that of the 9mm/.40S&W. The idea was that they could chamber existing pistols with 9mm/.40S&W size grip frames in .45GAP for people/agencies that wanted .45ACP power in a pistol with the same grip size as the Glock 17, 19, etc. It has not been very popular.

    Also, .45GAP and .45ACP cartridges and their respective magazines are not interchangeable in pistols. However, if you have a .45ACP revolver that uses moonclips you can shoot .45GAP through it if you choose.
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    G.A.P. Stands for Going Away Pretty Soon.

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