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    Wally World no fun in New Mexico.

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    I don't know the laws in New Mexico but if that is true I would hate to live there. Just knowing that you aren't allowed to even protect yourself out in public.
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    Just one more reason to avoid Wally World. I was escorted out of one in FL for the crime of trying to go christmas shopping while wearing a legal 3" utility knife. For that and a host of other reasons it takes a major emergency for them to get any of my money.
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    walmart

    about 3 years ago i was confronted by walmart "security" because while bending down to get a bag of dog food my pistol became partially exposed, i explained myself and showed my carry permit. Now if the story stopped right there, i would understand, they have a job to do, but i was asked to leave and was informed of their no firearms policy, but since in TN, it has to be posted at all major entrances and exits, then they are not following state laws to enforce store policy, so needless to say, i just make sure the accidental exposures dont happen, but the gun doesn't stay in the car!

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    I love those signs in FL. I see them occasionally...as I walk by them, armed.
    I'll take a .45 and a large side of JHPs, please.

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    This happened a few years ago...If I recall correctly, Wally-World has a corporate policy that specifically allows CCW in their stores. After contacting the company another person got the sign taken down. It's not up to the individual store managers to post signs like that as they cannot change company wide policy. UNLESS there is some law in NM about carrying where they sell alcohol, or at a pharmacy, or something similar that would make the store off-limits anyway. I would call the manager and ask what the story is behind the sign...I'm guessing that most simply don't know (read: don't care) about the company policy but if you bring it to their attention then I'm sure you can get it taken down..."we" have gotten them taken down at other walmarts before. Again, as long as there is no other law that you would be breaking.
    Someone else will chime in here soon to point out any errors that I may have made :) ...hopefully even someone who knows more about NM law than I do!

    ETA: after a bit of research, I would guess that they are posting because they are selling alcohol there?????

    Taken from packing.org (so take it for what it's worth)
    Unlawful carrying of a deadly weapon in licensed liquor establishments****
    Courts (without the consent of the presiding judge)
    Tribal Land (unless authorized by the tribal council)
    On a snowmobile (unless there is no round in the chamber)
    Airport security zones
    State parks
    Many federal properties - military bases, national parks, national monuments, etc.
    While under the influence of alcohol or drugs
    Unlawful carrying of a deadly weapon on a bus
    ****Includes convenience stores selling alcohol for off premises consumption.

    There still seems to be some confusion regarding our alcohol laws. Here's the complete text you need to understand. The word "dispense" in NM does not differentiate between on-premise or off-premise consumption.

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    I haven't seen one posted yet.

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    I also think it relates to alcohol sales

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    ETA: after a bit of research, I would guess that they are posting because they are selling alcohol there?
    I would agree with that. I have travelled in New Mexico and studied their carry laws. The state has a fairly strict rule about not carrying in any retail store that sells alcohol, even if the sale is for consumption elsewhere. That must be the legal basis for the sign, if that Walmart store sells beer or something.

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    One CCW last year saved a woman's life who was being stabbed at a Wal-Mart by her psycho ex-husband. Shot him DRT, as I recall. She was critical for a while.

    His license was in order, and that store did not sell liquor, so there was no problem with that prohibition.

    Police here seemed rather approving of the shooting, as did anybody I talked to.

    LOTS fewer liberal handwringers in these parts.

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    I was at the new Gander Mountain yesterday and the sign by the Service Desk said "no loaded weapons allowed in the store" and then just underneath in Paras ( this does not apply to CCW holders)
    Gotta love that !!!

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    I believe that the wally worlds in NM sell alcohol. It was one of the stupid laws that they added to the carry law so it would pass IIRC.

    Wally World have to go by state law. Every place else that doesn't have that stupid law they allow CCW.

    Wayne

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanilla_gorilla View Post
    I love those signs in FL. I see them occasionally...as I walk by them, armed.

    Yeah, I noticed a big sign at BrandsmartUSA here (an electronics store I had never heard of until I moved to FL) the last time I was in one. I had never noticed the sign before that (it was only about two months ago) and I don't even know if it had been there on my previous visit or not.

    I ignored it. As I understand it, I would first have to be detected to be carrying a gun, and then asked to leave. It's not against the LAW to go in armed in spite of their sign; it's against the law to refuse to leave once you've been told to, and a cop would have to be present to witness me standing my ground before I would get arrested for trespassing.

    I don't know what the legal reality of it in NM is. Is it true that it's a felony to just enter there? Do they have a law like Texas does, where the sign, posted the correct size with the correct wording, carries the force of law?

    Well, anyway, I doubt I'm alone when I say that if shootings by criminals end up happening in these Walmart stores (or other stores), it'll serve them right, and I hope they lose millions or billions of dollars being sued by people who were not protected by their asinine policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ParaC6 View Post
    I was at the new Gander Mountain yesterday and the sign by the Service Desk said "no loaded weapons allowed in the store" and then just underneath in Paras ( this does not apply to CCW holders)
    Gotta love that !!!

    Dang! You surely do gotta love that!


    And you know, really, it makes sense. The CCW gun should be, of course, loaded; and any other gun brought in for any other legitimate purpose (gunsmithing, warranty service, "a quick look," etc.) should of course not be loaded, for safety.

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    I was at the new Gander Mountain yesterday and the sign by the Service Desk said "no loaded weapons allowed in the store" and then just underneath in Paras ( this does not apply to CCW holders)
    Gotta love that !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by peacefuljeffrey View Post

    I don't know what the legal reality of it in NM is. Is it true that it's a felony to just enter there? Do they have a law like Texas does, where the sign, posted the correct size with the correct wording, carries the force of law?
    Yes, in Texas we have what is know as the 30.06 sign. The 30.06 designation is for the portion of the code that designates the wording of the signs, the size of the letters and the format of the signs. In order for the sign to be enforceable, it needs to strictly adhere to the law and state:

    "Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by holder of license to carry a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchater H, Chapter 411, Government Code (Concealed Handgun Law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun."

    Must be in both English and Spanish, must be in contrasting colors with block letter at least one inch in height and displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.

    For instance, a sign that simple reads "No Guns" does not apply. If a store owner is too cheap to have the right signs then that is not a problem for the CHL.

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