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    ALL RIGHT!

    Step in the right direction.

    I really like the way that Judge Ruled on this. Can we borrow him for the 9th Circus of Clowns?
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    it ain't over until the law is actually on the books. I seriously doubt this will come to pass anytime soon, regardless of what the court says.
    I grew up in Illinois and saw many attempts to pass a concealed carry law go down in flames at the hand of the Chicago Machine.
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    Busy morning. Good news is always the best news to report.
    Here's my take, with some interesting quotes from the ruling and a link to the actual court document. It's a slap down for those people who insist the 2A only applies to bearing arms in one's home. I'll write more on the ruling because it is loaded with quotable stuff. This has huge implications because it says without a hiccup that the 2A applies outside of the home.

    Court issues huge ruling for right to carry outside home

    The Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals today handed down a huge victory for Second Amendment advocates by declaring that the right to self-defense is “broader than the right to have a gun in one’s home” in a case that will force the Illinois Legislature to craft a carry statute after years of saying no.

    Court issues huge ruling for right to carry outside home - Seattle gun rights | Examiner.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by zonker1986 View Post
    it ain't over until the law is actually on the books. I seriously doubt this will come to pass anytime soon, regardless of what the court says.
    I grew up in Illinois and saw many attempts to pass a concealed carry law go down in flames at the hand of the Chicago Machine.
    It'll have to, or the court could come down with something. Does "shall issue" ring a bell???

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveWorkman View Post
    Does "shall issue" ring a bell???
    That works for me! Not to mention reciprocity with CO.

    Of course DC has flouted McDonald without significant penalty; I'm sure IL will continue the tradition of ignoring inconvenient court decisions.

    There is a case involving Colorado which has been hung up in the 10th circuit, possibly waiting on this decision, so there could be an immediate benefit here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    That works for me! Not to mention reciprocity with CO.

    Of course DC has flouted McDonald without significant penalty; I'm sure IL will continue the tradition of ignoring inconvenient court decisions.
    If only the court would act with severe contempt penalties for that sort of crap, including mandatory (unavoidable, unalterable) jail time. Hopefully the court knows who it's dealing with and won't put up with any of it.
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    where does wi have reciprocity?

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    This is the Illinois State Rifle Association announcement about this turn of events. If you live in Illinois, please help by doing what the ISRA asks in this message. Now is time to act.

    URGENT ALERT – YOUR IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED

    7TH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS DIRECTS ILLINOIS GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO PASS CONCEALED CARRY BILL

    BOTTOM LINE UP FRONT:
    The 7th Circuit Court of Appeals has rendered a decision in the Shepard/Moore v. Madigan case that states that Illinois’ ban on concealed carry is unconstitutional. The court further directs the legislature to pass a concealed carry bill within 180 days. Although the announcement of this court ruling would appear to be good news for self-defense advocates, it is really nothing more than the first volley in what will be a heated battle to preserve and protect our gun rights. The gun control movement, headed by Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan, will be introducing a concealed carry bill of their own for the sole purpose of satisfying the court order. Madigan’s bill is sure to be a sham that will be so restrictive and impractical that only very few Illinois citizens would even qualify for a carry permit – most citizens would remain unprotected from criminals. Information obtained from within the Madigan organization indicates that the anti-gunners will piggyback an “assault weapons” ban and other onerous gun control legislation on the concealed carry bill. In order to prevent Madigan from hijacking concealed carry, Illinois gun owners need to step up and let their voices be heard on this issue.
    HERE IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO GET A GOOD CONCEALED CARRY BILL PASSED:
    1. Contact your State Representative and State Senator. Politely advise them that you are a law-abiding firearm owner and that you support the court of appeals decision in the Shepard case. Politely advise them that you want them to vote against any sham concealed carry bill that Lisa Madigan will try to push. Politely tell them that you want them to vote for HB 148, the Family and Personal Protection Act. Advise them that you will not support any concealed carry bill that contains provisions that would discourage the average citizen from seeking a carry permit such as exorbitant fees, impossible training requirements, or excessive red tape. Advise them that you will only support a “clean” concealed carry bill that does not try to sneak through gun control schemes. If you do not know who your State Representative and/or State Senator is, please visit the Illinois State Board of Elections website link here.
    2. Pass this alert along to your family and friends. Encourage them to contact their representatives as well.
    3. Post this alert to any and all internet blogs or bulletin boards to which you may belong.

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    I have a Springfield, IL native as my wife. She will be happy to hear this but....

    Unless someone bulldozes Chicago into Lake Michigan then any law permitting the uwashed masses to conceal a firearm will be so restrictive it may as well not exist. I can see it now, "concealed carry on every other day, betweeen the hours of 12 to 2 AM and you can only have one bullet..."

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    I would be so sick of Cook county if I lived elsewhere in IL.

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    I'm glad there are no military bases in Illinois that I can be stationed at. I can't goto Fort Drum in NY, and not much for me in California. So that just leaves Maryland really. I think I'm pretty safe with my Michigan and Florida Permits.

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    Even if they have restrictive OC laws from this, better than a complete "NO" from the state

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    I would think that the 180 days could also mean that IL could take it up the court ladder. Also; I hold a KS permit will I be allowed to cary when I go through the state?

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