This is what I was referring to about the way the world is today:
1 shot, gunman dead at Conn. elementary school
This is a discussion on Why do we carry? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by OldVet A fellow once threw the "cops are here to protect you" argument at me. I shoved my finger gun in his ...
I refuse to accept the premise that I need a reason to carry. I have my reasons, they are personal to me, and they are not to justify my acts.
I carry because it is my choice to do so.
I noted this in a related thread - if you engage in such arguments, you accept the premise that you need a reason to justify your acts.
This is akin to an argument along the following lines:
"Give me one good reason you should be able to criticize the government."
"Give me one good reason you should be allowed to keep your children."
"Give me one good reason you should be have the right to defend yourself."
"Give me one good reason you should be allowed to live another day."
Each of those questions is not deserving of an answer.
I am a senior citizen, and I certainly can't outrun or out fight a 20 year old, but I refuse to become a victim, and for me and others like me the carry gun is the equalizer. As the president likes to say "it levels the playing field". I would rather have a heart attack defending myself than to cower before a felon trying get his way with me or my loved ones.
I just started carrying a few weeks ago. I was worried about people noticing, or being uncomfortable with a gun riding against my back, but neither has happened. I now like the comfort, and security of having the gun with me. My wife knows, and my step-son, other than that I do not talk about it. I agree with the seat belt analogy, for the most part you will never need it, and sometimes it is uncomfortable to wear, but if you are ever in a situation where you do need it, you will be glad its there.
I also continually train with my gun, and have read Massad Ayoob books, and taken classes on practical handgun use. I think that is one of the keys to being a responsible gun owner, is to know how to use your gun, and when to use your gun.
I hope to never have to use it in self-defense, but I like knowing that I could if needed to.
Except for Federal Buildings and Courts, I carry wherever I go, I know those Restaurant signs are not going to stop the bad guys.
Odd thing... didn't that shooter in Connecticut know that firearms were not allowed in schools??? Probably the the "Oregon" mall shooter went into an area marked as 'no guns'. Oh yes, and then the Denver movie theater thing... More reasons why I carry. Seems as though the only persons who cause problems in these "posted" areas are the ones doing harm (as opposed to those legally carrying and doing no harm). Now we'll be looking at another round of "gun control" (instead of stricter control of the mentally ill).
And at 67 years old I'm reasonably fit and able to fire a weapon in my own defense. I don't have all the "tactical" training that all the experts do, but just having a weapon in my possession (that I do know how to operate) gives me an advantage and at least a modicum of self assurance that I never had before. Okay... enough rambling... I just get a little upset when my right to carry comes into question.
Gun Expert Lott: Let Teachers Carry Arms, Ban Gun-Free Zones to Halt Mass Shootings
He basically said what you said DickO, among other things. But one of his points was that mass shooting perps, have absolutely and specifically chosen their targets based on prior knowledge that the location would most likely be "gun-free zones". The shooter in the theater in Aurora, passed up seven other theaters around the area, some closer to where he lived, others were larger and would have more potential victims. He passed up all of these in favor of the one theater that had signage banning lawful concealed carry weapons.
I refuse to put myself in a situation where I am at the mercy of a mass murderer, or any shooter for that matter, without any means of protecting myself or my loved ones.
I'm going to go out on somewhat of a limb here, but I think I'm on to something and would like to share. I saw someone post on another thread about the massacre yesterday and say in response to someone that posted about the need for teachers to be trained and allowed to carry concealed weapons if they want. This person said something to the effect of, oh sure, that's all we need, more bullets flying around an elementary school. This person didn't give a rip and completely dismissed any possibility that a teacher or some other staff member at the school COULD have stopped this before so much loss of life occurred. If they had been trained, armed and prepared.
Some of you may not like this next part. Here's your warning. I contend that the vast majority of the anti-gun, anti-2nd Amendment wackos out there, HATE IT, and are actually DISAPPOINTED when they read a news story about a thwarted mass murder incident taking place where a potential victim or law abiding bystander, had the training, concealed carry weapon and opportunity to end it sooner or prevent it all together. They're disappointed because it no longer fits their narrative, no longer serves their crusade against guns and gun rights. For example, when the incident at New Life church in Colorado Springs took place, I think the anti-gun zealots in this country, secretly in most cases, some maybe overtly, were disappointed there wasn't a huge loss of innocent life. I'm not intending to offend anyone here and I'm not referencing anyone specifically, this is just my gut feeling. And I've learned to trust my gut feelings.
I don't typically advertise that I carry. If I am with an anti and they question it, I just tell them that if we get into trouble, I will protect myself and they should worry about themselves. I then usually point out some rocks they may consider throwing...
Man am I lucky, my wife and four adult kids all have a CWFL, the rest of my family is pro gun and the majority of my friends are pro gun. I am also a member of a 650 member club that is about 99.9% pro gun, the VFW.
US Army 1953-1977
We, the People are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution.
Many on this forum say they would not leave their gun in their vehicles because if it gets stolen, they would feel guilty if it is used in a crime. Is the same not true if they were not able to put up an adequate defense in case of a disarm attempt?
BTW The motorcycle in the avatar is mine...it weighs about 800 lbs. and I still ride. If I weren't in condition enough to handle that bike, I would give it up.