This is a discussion on Ask family/friends if you can carry in their homes within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by archer51 Do you also ask if you can bring your pocket knife into their house also? What about a BIC lighter? Both ...
-It is a seriously scary thought that there are subsets of American society that think being intellectual is a BAD thing...
Get your facts straight before you make a remark like that. And I do respect folks that respect the wishes of homeowners and families.....take that FWIW
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It appears that there are a lot of folks I dont have to worry about chillin with. I wouldnt feel comfortable around someone who wouldnt trust me in the first place. Friends trust each other. Yes, one has complete control over what others bring into their home. I would appreciate a sign or discussion before I came to visit so I know not to show up or turn around and leave before I enter. It most likely will not be a topic of discussion beforehand unless I do trust you. I know signs at the home are not required but they would be appreciated for those of us that wouldnt want to tread on the homeowners rights.
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For a LOOOOONG time here on DC, My sig line was:
"Carry Always Ne'er Tell... Are you carrying now? I CAN'T
For the most part, I still feel that way....
But, I don't go to the Post Office carrying concealed... I don't even use a drive up mailbox on P.O. property with a firearm in the car... It's illegal.
I don't go to the courthouse (courtrooms at the very least) while carrying... as some local jurisdictions are breaking the State preemption law and posting gunbuster signs. I can't afford to be the test case.
I don't carry on school property except as allowed by law.
All that said... I said, "carry always, ne'er tell." I didn't say "carry always, never ASK."
If I have a friend... a real friend... who is anti... I will not go armed if he/she is opposed to it... Out of RESPECT for the friendship. Could I? Sure. Would they ever know? Probably not. But, my personal code of ethics does not allow me to disrespect what friendship means... And while and acquaintance is a different animal, I also would not carry if they expressed an aversion to it, but they might never become friends... and I would probably not visit THEIR domain.
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Further more do you respect gun buster signs? I don't. If its legal I carry. If i'm made and asked to leave I will.
Thats what it all comes down to. Comply with the laws in your state. I would not want to put my right to carry on the line for one case of carrying but I will carry in ALL places legal.
There's an old Military adage that goes something like this - "if you have to ask then expect the answer to be no".
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To clarify what may be a little more than you can grasp in your delusional state, I prefer to remain armed and anonymous. If my response to the OP's post sounded like I am Mr. Cool Guy who protects society then I must have painted a picture that I did not intend. Good day sir.
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But you know you're armed, the homeowner may not. Why would someone think to ask everyone, "Are you armed?"
wouldn't smoke in someone's house without asking, I wouldn't bring my dog into someone's house without asking, as well as a host of other things to which some homeowners may object.
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No, because they'd think I was a kook and would be highly insulted that I felt the need to be armed in their home.
My brother-in-law doesn't want guns in his house so I stayed away from family gatherings for a while. I saw no reason to compromise my beliefs in exchange for his.
Now I go and carry anyway. Not sure if he knows or suspects but he hasn't said anything. When I go I usually pocket carry but sometimes I have come straight from a security gig and I am carrying OWB a full size weapon. If I go to other friends I depends on the friend as to how I carry. If I don't know their stand I'll pocket carry as it is less detectable. If I know they carry then I just carry my normal method on my hip.
I do not ask, because they do not need to know that I even have a firearm on me. If it were to become known and they asked me not to, then I would just no longer go to their property. They have a right to make their own rules, but I don't need to tell them about the spare tire or gas can or tool box in my trunk, so why would it be different for this tool?
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I have never asked permission to do something that is totally legal for me to do. It is not required in my state and that's all anyone needs to know. The only people who has ever seen my gun when I was in their home were fellow "gun people" who asked what kind of gun I had with me today. No one else has ever had a clue I was packing.
Secondly, what type of person would not allow you (a law abiding, licensed ccw holder) to carry a gun in their home? Either a person who believes you are an irresponsible and reckless person (in which case, maybe they know something about you based on your prior behavior). Or the type of person who is totally clueless and harbors an irrational fear regarding firearms (in which case, their ignorance and gun phobia isn't really my problem).
If you are unfortunate enough to live in a state which the law requires you to ask permission from every clueless idiot before going into their home, then it sucks to be you.
If you feel compelled (for whatever reason) to inform everyone whose home you enter, then by all means, ask permission. But don't come whine to us when someone says "I don't trust you with that nasty gun in my home."
"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, prey on those who without one, would surely perish."
Of course, such people only consider the destination as the sole point of the exercise, completely ignoring heading to, coming from, and all points in between. It's why we go armed, of course, since it's never known when or where the S is going to HTF.
If they could get this through their heads, anti's and knee-jerkers might be a bit more appreciative of the advantage being armed affords.