Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper says time to talk gun laws
This is a discussion on Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper says time to talk gun laws within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; FYI, there will not be any "respectful debate" nor will there be any meaningful exchange of ideas. That is because Democrats re-took control of the ...
December 14th, 2012 09:43 PM
FYI, there will not be any "respectful debate" nor will there be any meaningful exchange of ideas. That is because Democrats re-took control of the Colorado State Senate as well as the Colorado State House. With Democrats holding the majority in both the senate and the house, as well as Governor Hickenlooper (a Democrat) holding the position of Governor of Colorado---Democrats will dictate whatever position they would like to impose upon the citizens of Colorado.
Any other beliefs about the Colorado State Legislature putting forth a well-reasoned and balanced, well-thought-out perspective is simply a fantasy.
Last edited by .45acpguy; December 14th, 2012 at 09:44 PM.
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December 14th, 2012 09:46 PM
pick up the phone and call him! Leave a message! Voice your concerns. The problem is people decided to elect all these democrat liberal political people. that was the first mistake. Regardless of what people feel Democrats and Liberals are in the same boat. There MAY be some dems that purchase firearms but they're not anyone I'd trust.
Originally Posted by tessa
December 14th, 2012 09:48 PM
I think alot of it has to do with all these Hipster college kids who are obviously not being educated with this liberal education system we have in this country. I can't stand democrats. I'm not a big fan of Republicans either but I would align myself with Republicans before democrats anyday.
Originally Posted by .45acpguy
December 14th, 2012 11:32 PM
Colorado is rapidly going the way of Kalifornia. The concealed carry law we have for the moment will soon be done away with. The wheels started turning the day after the "election". Today's massacre merely gives them another excuse and more cover to add to the Aurora theater shooting they were looking and hoping for. The fact of the matter is that State-ism has taken hold in Colorado, just like it has in much of the rest of the country. I soon may be changing my screen name to TexasJay. Sadly, that may be one of the last remaining refuges of sanity left in the country.
I saw on the page a minute ago that Hickenlooper has a concealed carry permit? Classic, do as I say - not as I do, liberal. I'm quite certain he'll make sure to keep some "loop"hole in his soon-to-be-hatched anti-gun law that allows him to continue carrying when HE feels the need.
Sorry for the rant.
Signed, An ex-republican, newly unaffiliated, ex-voter and permanent Conservative.
Last edited by Denverjay; December 15th, 2012 at 12:22 AM.
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December 15th, 2012 03:27 AM
You folks from Colorado are welcome to come to AZ. :) Kalipornikans not so much.
Did you know we have 12,000 foot plus peaks above Flagstaff, with skiing. It's not Aspen, but Flag actually has held the record for the most snow in the US, and we have the largest ponderosa pine forest in the world, so you should feel right at home!
And you don't have to beg anybody's permission to carry a gun, concealed or not.
December 15th, 2012 05:14 AM
Hopefully the proposals will, for once, FOCUS on the criminals and not the upstanding citizens.
Originally Posted by From the article
I'm not holding my breath.
CO residents: be communicating with your reps, hard, often and eloquently about the insanity of further restrictions on citizens that will do little to nothing to stem the tide of criminality. Make them see you'll not stand for continued evisceration of the 2A, soft stances on handling violent criminals.
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the number of victims?
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December 15th, 2012 07:08 AM
we spend BILLIONS on airport security now its time to have a few armed guards at every school 24/7
December 15th, 2012 08:45 AM
Hopefully the make up of your house and senate will be able to keep him from pushing through new restrictions, that will be ignored by the criminals and those bent on creating havoc.
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December 15th, 2012 11:23 AM
Gov. Hickenlooper is also a pheasnt hunetr. He just returned from a hunting trip. He also can to our range with his son and shot. He thinks of himself as a moderate due to his stance on oil and gas. He wants the fast ticket up to the White House and wants to be the knight in shinning armour that can solve this problem. He is alluding to a ban on high cap mags and maybe even som sort of "assault weapon" ban. Another Boulder house rep wnts to allow public colleges (i.e.CU-Boulder) to ban CCW on campus. That is the latest I've heard. The incident in CT will just give them more ammo.
December 15th, 2012 12:34 PM
I used to be proud to be born and raised in Colorado, the last couple years not so much. We are slowly turning into California and it makes me sick. I refuse to leave until it is certain we have lost all hope. I do voice my opinions to representatives and have heard Hickenlooper speak a few times as he knows Colorado still has a lot of Cattleman and used to be (not so much now) a big part of voters. We are still here just not in the numbers we used to be but our voices are heard and hopefully it will help deter any new laws or gun, ban/grabs.
What I would propose for schools is to have a T.T.R.T. or Trained Teachers Response Team that is made up of teachers that are allowed to carry and are trained in active shooter scenarios as well as any teacher that has their license to carry be allowed to carry along with any parent that is licensed. I do not want my kids attending schools that are run like a prison as that only gets many kids used to what they will see in the future and that will make prison not seem so different.
December 15th, 2012 12:43 PM
Why not students as well?
Originally Posted by CowboyColby
December 15th, 2012 01:04 PM
In my mind I was thinking of a K-12 school not of a college but that is a good point and would need to be addressed as well. I have no problem with legally licensed students being able to carry as well attending college. My school days of students having shot guns and hunting rifles in the back windows is long gone. And that wasn't that long ago.
Originally Posted by Toorop
December 15th, 2012 01:07 PM
Talking political head, with diarrhea of the mouth.
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December 15th, 2012 01:19 PM
Like many from Colorado I'm very concerned about Hickenlooper's recent "announcement." But I haven't seen anything specific he is advocating. Respectfully.... can you show where he directly mentions high cap mags or ban on "assault rifles."? Thanks
Originally Posted by rljohns
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December 15th, 2012 03:56 PM
As an Emergency Physician and as a Psychologist (separate degrees), on one hand, I find it pretty hard to argue against keeping firearms, explosives, and maybe cars out of the hands of crazy people or criminals who might harm others with them. OTOH, I find it pretty hard to define where to draw the line with crazy people. They can sometimes look pretty normal. We are just really not very good at all when it comes to predicting future behavior. After the fact, there are all sorts of 'insights' about the causes and antecedants of whacko behavior. Hindsight is usually close to 20/20. I would not find it hard to tolerate SUI (shooting under the influence) defined as a felony and sufficient to revoke permits, etc. I'd throw DUI in there too, under the theory that if you are too stupid to take care with a 3000 lb vehicle you shouldn't be trusted with a 24 oz gun either. And maybe a record of alcoholism. The problem is anround the edges; e.g. someone with severe situational depression from which they are likely to recover. I would even go so far as to say PUI (possesion under the influence) might be sufficient -- like an intoxicated person sitting behind the wheel of a car with keys in the ignition even tho not actually moving; the potential for disaster is too great... But, you can see the problems here; a blood alcohol level of .08 mg/dL or one of, say, .04... or more than .10?
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