Will they ever take our guns?
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December 21st, 2012 06:41 PM
No because they cannot trace the transfers of most of them, but they can tax the doo-doo out of all new ones and ammo for them after they get the Assault Weapons Ban in place. Now is the time to get what you want for the rest of your life. It will get way more expensive shortly and some prices are already spiking and supplies running short or already out. A Smyrna Ga Gun Seller said they had almost run out of their supply of 2500 AR-15 Style guns and would be out of stock tonight. Ammo is going like hotcakes on the internet. Now is almost way past to get what you will need in the next several years.
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December 21st, 2012 06:50 PM
I think they'd love to confiscate, but I don't think they have the cojones to try it. One would think that the panic buying that is going on would send a message to the politicians what the American public thinks about that issue. It's one thing to vocalize a contrary opinion. It's quite another to go max a credit card on some ARs, which I think sends a much more serious message.
December 21st, 2012 06:51 PM
As far as taking guns, maybe, but not likely. If they are in your home, I don't see how they well ever find the political will in say the next 20 years to take them. But it can get to the point that you will have difficulty transporting certain firearms (like anything over ten rounds). It might not even matter if it is loaded. Then as far as CC, who knows.
Like the guy who was in Chicago or DC, who was just moving, and because he had a firearm, he was arrested. It was legal to own. He told LE he was transporting in writing. None of that mattered. Even though it was not loaded, in a container, etc.
December 21st, 2012 09:09 PM
There was a vote on it a while back. It was rejected, but unfortunately not by a very large margin.
Originally Posted by sgoodmeyer
December 23rd, 2012 12:31 PM
They may end up taking my guns, but I'll either be dead or out of ammo when it happens!!
December 23rd, 2012 12:35 PM
"They" WILL end up taking your guns if they want them and specifically come for you. Are you as well stocked, prepared and barricaded as those were in Waco? Probably not even close, but "they" got their guns, one way or another...
Originally Posted by carverelli
December 23rd, 2012 12:53 PM
They will not take your guns. It will not happen. The public is upset, as well they should be, but many still do not trust the government. They can not even solve the DEBT, DRUB ABUSE, ETC. The most frightening words in the English language are; "I'm from the government and I'm here to help".
I have educated at least a dozen people in the past week. Many think an AR is like a machine gun. If you calmly explain the difference to them and that criminals don't obey laws, you can win some over. The ANTIS (no one should own a gun group) will never understand or listen.
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December 23rd, 2012 02:57 PM
Originally Posted by Blue Thunder
We were all told we could keep out health insurance too. Now, (as predicted) employers are dropping insurance because its cheaper to pay the fine. This is what happens when gov. gets involved. Tax behavior you want to suppress. This Commander in Chief gets that better than anyone. Don't fight the legal battle of confiscating guns. Just tax them until people voluntarily turn them in, sell them, or stop buying them.
December 23rd, 2012 04:08 PM
I'm thinking that within 90 days there will be another shooting that will have the antis crying for a complete ban and turn in. Get caught with an ar or ak and go to prison. Maybe a few swat teams sent to a few residences to make examples and stress the point. Your neighbors will become informants.
December 24th, 2012 12:38 AM
Will they ever take our guns?
Sorry, but this has already happened. And I dont mean they guy in Britain, it happened in the US.
Originally Posted by Lot_of_others
During Hurricane Katrina...
Would police officers or military personnel go door-to-door and simply ask citizens to hand over their guns? Or would they search homes instead? Would they need a warrant for that? Would they use force to enter homes believed to house handguns if citizens resisted?
- Police officers and military personnel went door to door and asked citizens to hand over their guns. Sometimes they didn't ask.
- They also searched homes, entering without permission.
- They should have had warrants, but did not. That did not stop them at all.
- They used force.
- There is no indication (that I can find) that any citizens resisted (some objected, but no resistance).
This all happened because the mayor of New Orleans declared that all firearms would be confiscated - an Executive Order.
- The LEOs and National Guard did not even give out receipts so people could get their firearms back afterward.
- Some leveled their M16s at the citizens as they were confiscating the citizens' firearms.
- Some antique and/or heirloom firearms were destroyed by the officers right on the spot.
- There is a famous video of an officer slamming a feeble grandmother into a wall to take the small revolver she was holding in her palm.
- The only people I have heard of that objected to this illegal confiscation were a unit of Utah National Guard troops. When they stated that they heard that confiscations were happening and that they would have none of that, their commander said that they would be given other duties. I commend them for standing up for right. Unfortunately, other officers did not have the same moral fortitude.
Sure the courts said afterward that all of this was (sort of) illegal and that all of the firearms had to be returned to their owners. But that hasn't happened - very few had proof of ownership and went to the bother of going through the trouble to get their firearms back. And who went to jail for 'stealing' other peoples' property? No one - not even anyone in trouble or demoted that I've heard of.
The point is, they had the opportunity during Katrina, and they took it, and got away with it. They will go as far as they can with the current situation - I'm guessing at least an Assault Weapons and Large Magazine Ban as far as they can take it. If they could take what we already own, they will. Whatever they think they can get away with, they will try.
That post, I agree with.
Originally Posted by Piratesailor
Last edited by ElkSniper; December 24th, 2012 at 12:40 AM.
Reason: minor typo
December 24th, 2012 12:45 AM
It should also be pointed out that while members of the Utah National Guard refused such orders to confiscate weapons, officers of the California Highway Patrol were among those who were more than happy to take on the assignment.
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December 24th, 2012 02:28 AM
Make no mistake "they" are hell bent on banning all Weapons(guns) in America and from the concessions we allowed to happen so far and now this new ban push they are happily on their way......... We are in a full blown "firefight" folks........
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December 24th, 2012 03:38 AM
I had to get rid of my Street SweeperShotgun because the 94 ban classified it as a destructive device. In my state we can't own such a firearm unless we are a Class 3 Dealer.
So yes they can.
December 24th, 2012 01:32 PM
What occurred in the UK
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December 24th, 2012 01:34 PM
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