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December 16th, 2012 02:30 PM
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I Love my Church
So we had a church dinner after the service today. Toward the end of the dinner, I look over and see someone with an LCP out, and a crowd of people listening to him explaining the merits of the LCP to a woman who is looking for a CC gun. No one even batted an eye... No angry mothers scolding, no children running away in terror, no "holier than thou" gun control comments...
It was very refreshing.
(Before anyone comments on this being unsafe, keep in mind that you weren't there...)
"He is a wellspring of truth, but you can't bring the whole well up with one bucket." -Mark Twain's Mother (Jane Lampton Clemens)
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December 16th, 2012 02:34 PM
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That makes me feel better. Hats off to your church.
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December 16th, 2012 02:37 PM
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I trust your judgement and what you saw and how it was done but I think that if one were to do an impromptu display of a firearm, even for good reasons, maybe in a more planned manner would be better so that every one would be informed of why a gun was being displayed.
Sorry about the run on sentence
Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?”
And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”
Isaiah 6:8
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December 16th, 2012 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Before anyone comments on this being unsafe, keep in mind that you weren't there...
So long as it truly was done safely, I have no problem with such things. (ie, bringing an unloaded/strapped example for show-and-tell; or, heading out to the back range to show the group.)
Refreshing, indeed. Good to see a community having its head screwed on tight with regard to simple preparations and tools that can have a dramatic impact on the lives of our loved ones.
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December 16th, 2012 03:21 PM
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I can understand that good intensions were at heart, but even at local gun club meetings it is a rule to never unholster a weapon. If one were to invite someone to one's home and do an informal viewing of a weapon that has been unloaded and may not be misinterpreted, that would be better. I am not really sure how my church feels about CC. My pastor knows I carry, but I don't know if he understands I ALWAYS carry. Even at church this morning. I would just hate to have someone misinterprate my best intensions and then leave the church because of that.
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December 16th, 2012 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by
Badey
So we had a church dinner after the service today. Toward the end of the dinner, I look over and see someone with an LCP out, and a crowd of people listening to him explaining the merits of the LCP to a woman who is looking for a CC gun. No one even batted an eye... No angry mothers scolding, no children running away in terror, no "holier than thou" gun control comments...
It was very refreshing.
(Before anyone comments on this being unsafe, keep in mind that you weren't there...)
I am pleased that you have a church group of mature people untainted by PC propaganda.
My wife and I went to Barnes & Noble after our church service. We usually chat with a number of other "regulars" there. One mother spontaneously expressed that she felt it was time for her to start moving forward on buying a gun for ccw and getting her concealed handgun permit. I complimented her on her choice and shared that women buying handguns and women getting their permits are among the fastest growing segments in the "gun world." She just listened and did not say anything. But I just wanted to affirm her comment--and I got that done.
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December 16th, 2012 03:49 PM
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I don't condone pulling out your loaded CC gun in a crowd of people,been several stories of ND's already.
If it was an unloaded firearm that was cleared prior to entering the location that's another story
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December 16th, 2012 03:51 PM
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Safe gun handling is safe gun handling, regardless of when and where. Perhaps that time, that place, that audience found it appropriate.

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December 16th, 2012 04:16 PM
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See, this is what I am talking about... everyone is talking about pulling out a carried gun... this was an unloaded gun that someone had in their vehicle. He retrieved it to give a demonstration. It was pointed in a safe direction the whole time that I was watching. Fingers off the trigger.
His CC weapon remained holstered the whole time.
"He is a wellspring of truth, but you can't bring the whole well up with one bucket." -Mark Twain's Mother (Jane Lampton Clemens)
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December 17th, 2012 02:31 AM
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Are you sure it wasn't a Ducks Unlimited meeting or something of that nature? lol
That sounds pretty good to me.
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December 17th, 2012 08:31 AM
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If the weapon was properly unloaded and handled safely, then situation was handled correctly. What a refreshing alternative to the media anti-gun rhetoric of the last few days. I can tell you that there are several gun enthusiasts who belong to my congregation. In fact, I've gone shooting with two of them on two different occasions. Also, we have a retired 3-star general who CC's at church, with my blessing. And just this past weekend two individuals spoke to me about applying for their CCW permit. In fact, my own CCW permit should arrive any day now. It is a sad situation in our society that this is necessary, but at least we have the right to protect ourselves...hopefully we will still have that right by the time Obama leaves office.
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December 17th, 2012 08:42 AM
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Why don't we celebrate the OP's pride in worshipping with a group of level-headed, clear-minded people...instead of hijacking his thread to make the issue become about how we imagine the situation might be better, uh...managed? Especially in light of his last sentence.
Badey, I LOVE YOUR CHURCH AS WELL! All these wanna-be Range Officers can worship where ever they please.
There are only TWO kinds of people in this world; those that describe the world as filled with two kinds of people...and those who don't.
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December 17th, 2012 08:59 AM
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December 17th, 2012 09:00 AM
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I go to a church very similar. They encourage it's members to carry. We went last night and had a short memorial service for those who lost their lives in CT. I am proud to be a member that does want to be involved in the government, after all, our Founding Father's were Christians with guns. Today, we are not the simple, united, one nation under God we once were. Citizens with guns is a GOOD thing!
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December 17th, 2012 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by
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Why don't we celebrate the OP's pride in worshipping with a group of level-headed, clear-minded people...instead of hijacking his thread to make the issue become about how we imagine the situation might be better, uh...managed? Especially in light of his last sentence.
Badey, I LOVE YOUR CHURCH AS WELL! All these wanna-be Range Officers can worship where ever they please.
I like that, can I use it too?
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