No way it will pass the House.
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No way it will pass the House.
I said something was coming and I said it would have been far easier on us if we had come up with a solution rather than have a solution imposed upon us but I just got shouted down. Had we gotten out in front of this thing then perhaps everyone wouldn't be in a panic right now.
Fankly, it probably isn't too late just yet to appear as the source of the solution (whatever that is) rather than just being defensive and shouting about the Constitution. Either way, this won't be pretty would be nice to have some control over the proceedings at the very least.
However, I think we're screwed now. From a public viewpoint will millions screaming....I think we're in trouble. If he's a true anti-believer he has no reason to fight popular and nearly hysterical influence.
I would prefer a stonger supporter of the Constitution. However he certainly isnt the only one with these blind spots. The last administration certainly trod all over our rights as well (Patriot Act for openers). I'm not posting that for an argument, just perspective.
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Freedom doesn't mean safe, it means free.
The thing about "defense" is that it has practically nothing to do with guns. (As passed on by CCW9MM)
Something DOES need to be done, most all of these shooters had mental problems, they had psychologist, treating them at one time or another, the gov. should make thse DR.'s responsible for turning in these, Loons. just like the Dept. of homeland securities no fly list. if you are being treated for mental issues, You Are On The list.
Although our DOJ did not itself author the study, they did fund the independent research, which is common for government agencies. Links to the same study, published by both the university and then the National Criminal Justice Reference Service (NCJRS). Note that although the author provides a standard disclaimer that the opinions are not those of the DOJ, there were no other studies published which were so funded.
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I still believe that if the gun owning community came forward and said "This Sort of Thing Will Not Be Allowed If We Can Help It" followed by some self policing and perhaps installing some self imposed rules that we'd be seen as reasonable people. We would end up looking good, we'd be doing good and most importantly we wouldn't be marginalizing gun owners of every type, race and political orientation. Time is running out so we either do something or brace for rules to be imposed upon us. We have a problem and children have died. We, as a community, should really work together and come up with some ideas for what we can do to both protect the 2A as well as the rites of unarmed men, women and especially Children.
I don't know what the solution actually is but I'd really like to have a productive discussion with the rest of the community.
[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people. ---Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.
I always seem to come late to these affairs but reading through the initial posts I have two words to add to the conversation: executive order. 923 and counting although the left will dispute that number... just like they do about gun legislation and everything else.
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations” – James Madison 1788
As much as I fear the battle ahead on gun rights and ownership, I truly hope Congress concentrates on the biggest issue at hand: our taxes. Emotions will die down and hopefully cooler heads will prevail.
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"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny." Thomas Jefferson
You are only paranoid until you are right - then you are a visionary.
Funny how politicians are protected by armed secret service agents, because they know the risks. Where are my armed secret service agents? Oh yea, I dont have any. Glad i got my CCW when i did. Bunker
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Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance
They won't be able to ban firearms... but he would love to limit us to bolt actions , bumps & revolvers.