Carry overkill
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December 24th, 2012 04:38 PM
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Carry overkill
I'm new to forum and really enjoy reading all the opinions on gun use. I live in rural Idaho farm country and always have had guns in truck or nearby. I read a lot of these posts and don't see the urgency a lot of posters have in having a "primary", secondary and BUG on them at all times.
Then there's the caliber debate of bigger is better. Maybe many posters are from urban high-crime areas, but we just don't see it.
I may be looking at this from a naieve prospective, but many posters are armed at all times as if they were a cop. My rural area hasn't had much in the way of violent crime, and can't think of any of my friends or neighbors encountering it as long as I can remember. Am I seeing this as a lot of people being overly paranoid and maybe some being so jumpy that someones going to get shot?
By the way, I'm not the enemy. I am a member of the NRA, have a CCW permit, and am a huge gun enthusiast, and have pistol in vehicle at all times.
I've read a lot of situations where defensive carry has been a lifesaver, but I think some take it too far. Must be a lot of retired cops posting here, because many posts are written in that perspective....with terms such as "primary,"secondary, BUG, extended gunbattle, multiple assailants,etc. Realistically, guys like me are just regular citizens that want to protect ourselves, and probably have no business trying to "take control of public situations, because we aren't trained in it and really have no authority to do it.
OK, I'm braced to take my medicine with some replies that think I'm way off base.
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December 24th, 2012 04:41 PM
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Most of us have not been in firefights, so how much ordnance we think we need is unsubstantiated opinion. Carry whatever you feel is right. Regarding the caliber war, I carry a .45 only because there is no .75.
"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?" Patrick Henry (ironically a slave owner), 1775 Mar 23.
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December 24th, 2012 04:42 PM
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I live in a rural area myself. I was thinking the exact same thing as you. Then last Thursday, a man well known by the entire community was found shot in the back of the head. Left along the road. We aren't in Kansas anymore Dorothy. Since then I have made my carrying option a bit more everyday accessible. Just saying.
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December 24th, 2012 04:43 PM
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Welcome aboard. I don't think you're going to get flamed like you think. Lots of guys here carry 5 shot snubbies.
I have a very strict gun control policy: if there's a gun around, I want to be in control of it.
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December 24th, 2012 04:49 PM
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Good point from another rural guy! I am getting more aware, and having guns nearby. Just not in our everyday thinking here in Idaho, but I guess violence can pop up anywhere
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December 24th, 2012 04:50 PM
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You need to do what makes you comfortable. Some people are comfortable with a gun under the seat. I did that for a few years, and then bought a pocket pistol. Now I don't feel comfortable walking to the mail box without it in my pocket.
When I was a LEO my backup gun was a Remington 870. If I really thought I was going to need a gun, it came out of the car with me. Then my duty handgun became my backup. I have never met someone that had been in a firefight and thought they had to many guns or to much ammo.
Be safe.
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December 24th, 2012 04:53 PM
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I kind of feel the same, but then I have never had to defend myself with a handgun either. I should get my letter either later this week or next week for sure. I will carry (1) gun for now. I read one old post where the OP carried a shotgun room to room in his home. What ever it takes I guess.
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December 24th, 2012 04:55 PM
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I too live in a rural area that sees very little but it is out there. Not long ago three houses just down from me were broken into and three months a young man was killed and left in the road, his murderer has not been caught yet. Also as a coin collector it is not uncommon for me to carry large sums of money or valuable coins. No one knows when, where or if a crime may happen so you carry what you feel is appropriate to counter any threats.
When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk.
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December 24th, 2012 04:56 PM
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Some do go overboard. I am fine with always carrying one or maybe even two guns. When you get to carrying three, you've crossed a line and passed the tinfoil stage unless you are in an active combat zone.
I don't carry a gun to look for or start a fight. I carry one to finish a fight I never wanted to be in.
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December 24th, 2012 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by
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I live in a rural area myself. I was thinking the exact same thing as you. Then last Thursday, a man well known by the entire community was found shot in the back of the head. Left along the road. We aren't in Kansas anymore Dorothy. Since then I have made my carrying option a bit more everyday accessible. Just saying.
Bob
Too many toys to list...wife might see it. 😁
Not in Kansas anymore? Wasn't 'In Cold Blood' a rural massacre in the 'good ol days?'
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December 24th, 2012 05:00 PM
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My father was unloading his car at a local tourist spot at the beach when someone approached him from behind and stuck a gun in his back, relieving him of his wallet. That was many years ago, and he carried a gun for the rest of his life. This occurred in a high traffic area at the beach, and "nobody saw anything". I spend a lot of time in that area just strolling along the beach...needless to say, I always carry. I haven't needed any firepower since leaving the military, but I always have it handy.
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December 24th, 2012 05:02 PM
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being from Idaho also, we are seeing alot more crime in the "bigger" cities.. and by bigger I mean IF what 60K people lol
just over the weekend there was an armed robbery at a gas station on our main street. 17th.
for the most part in my home town you wont find trouble unless you are looking for it.. but whos to say when or where something will take place. :(
oh and welcome. I dont post much, just read from time to time
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December 24th, 2012 05:08 PM
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Overkill is a relative term. What I need to carry to feel protected is going to vary from what the guy in S. Chicago or Detroit is going to want to have. I'm perfectly comfortable mowing my lawn while unarmed; others may not due to over-precaution or the reality of their areas.
I don't feel any of what I might is going to be the unstoppable BG who can wade through a hail of bullets and wipe out all that's good in this world in a single swoop. I feel the BG is more likely to make a quick about face at the sight of my .45 muzzle, if not at that first bullet heading in his direction. I don't carry enough reloads to hold off the SE US Chapter of the Mexican Mafia. If I'm in that situation, I have failed myself miserably. No matter how much you carry, you might need one more. I carry to get out of trouble, not to stay in it. If I'm looking for combat, it's not with my handgun.
My philosophy is simple: Carry what makes you feel comfortable, not what everyone else think is necessary. For me, sometimes that's my G30 and one mag, other times it's my 6906 and a spare.

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Paranoia strikes deep, into your heart it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid... "For What It's Worth" Buffalo Springfield
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December 24th, 2012 05:13 PM
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There must be a primary, a back up, a back up to the back up, and a back up to the back up of the back up. Oh wait, we aren't talking about computer servers. Crime can appear anywhere at any time. None of us go out and look for trouble, but when/if it comes our way we have to be ready. Having said that, each of us makes our own decisions and as such have to live with whatever the consequences are of those decisions. I can't carry 100% of the time due to travel, but if I could I would. Having a back up weapon does not fit my wardrobe very well, so I don't normally carry more than one. However, if I am very unsure of an area and I know that I can legally carry my ankle would probably have a companion.
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December 24th, 2012 05:16 PM
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We had entire rural family murdered not long ago just east of here. The guy was on parole, living in a halfway house.
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I refuse to be a victim regardless of what others say. Molon Labe
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