Which is more gun friendly - Oregon or Washington?
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January 1st, 2013 11:43 PM
IMO gun laws are much better here, you can carry just about everywhere, including hospitals and restaurants that serve alcohol, as long as you dont go in the lounge (anywhere that under 21 yr olds cannot go).
And it's a Shall issue state, while OR is May issue and you must provide a 'reason' to carry, altho it depends on the sheriff how many hoops they make you jump thru. This is what I learned 2 yrs ago when I took the OR test to get a cc permit for there, since I used to travel there alot.
There is no test in WA St and I had my CC permit in 5 working days after fingerprinting/background check.
OTOH the sales tax is very high and IMO affects alot of things. Also, because we have no income tax, we have some of the highest gas taxes in the country. My mother lives in the NYC metro area and is schocked at prices in our supermarkets, esp for things like paper towels, toilet paper, etc. Things are not cheap here, including real estate. And traffic in the Seattle metro area is horrendous. Hopefully as retirees you would not need to be near there.
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January 1st, 2013 11:43 PM
January 1st, 2013 11:48 PM
Originally Posted by C Paul Lincoln
If you make lots of money, you will pay more in Oregon income tax than you would save in sales tax. Being retired, may not be an issue. If I could move to Washington for the income tax relief I would.
Not true IMHO. You can carry just about anywhere in Oregon with few exceptions like courtrooms, Federal buildings etc. I CAN carry in schools, and have when my kids were in schools.
Originally Posted by aus71383
In Washington county which is outside Portland, they are very conceal carry friendly. I have never had an issue getting my permit in decades.
Not true. Oregon is SHALL issue for residents. That may be true for out of state issue which Oregon is not super friendly about. I had to get my Utah permit to carry in Washington, but it is also useful in many other states.
Originally Posted by 9MMare
Come on people. Get your facts straight.
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January 2nd, 2013 12:07 AM
I have concealed handgun permits from three different states, and still cannot carry in Oregon. That is a fact.
Originally Posted by ExactlyMyPoint
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January 2nd, 2013 01:07 AM
If you like the Columbia river valley the best of both worlds would be very rural Washington reestate near a good bridge to Oregon and its sales tax free economy...Id take Portland "culture" over Seattle...I am very attracted to the O side of the river...we live in the San Juans islands...but I spend all the time I can on the river...good people..government...Good luck to you
January 2nd, 2013 02:16 AM
Sorry Oregon is a shall issue, for info not a may issue
January 2nd, 2013 02:50 AM
And weed. What, it's legal.
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January 2nd, 2013 03:11 AM
Oregon is shall issue for residents. For non-residents it is may issue. They require training of some kind - not sure of the details on that.
"No guns" signs carry the weight of law in OR - in WA they do not. So in WA you can carry almost everywhere - hospitals, businesses, state buildings, etc...
They're both great states.
January 2nd, 2013 07:28 AM
I have PA and Utah permits. I can carry in WA, not in OR. I have heard from co-workers that retired there from So. Cal. that parts of OR are openly hostile to CA immigrants. So don't advertise your CA origins if you move to OR.
I am retired. One of the reasons I moved from So. Cal. (Acton) to PA was to avoid income tax on my retirement income. Property taxes are high here, but everything else is less expensive than So. Cal. The winters are mild, the PA is very CCW friendly (shall issue, carry every place but schools, court houses, and federal buildings), ground hog hunting is great fun 6 months of the year, there are lots of shooting ranges, and the people are friendly.
Moving from CA, watch out for the WA/OR winters.
If you live in WA near the Oregon border and don't have both permits it will be miserable trying to stay out of trouble.
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January 2nd, 2013 07:39 AM
Oregon or Washington
I grew up in Oregon, but now live in Washington. I also have concealed carry permits in both states...the biggest issue with Oregon, because it is so selective, the reciprocity is limited in regards to other states allowing you to carry. However, based on economy and numbers of people, retiring to Oregon maybe better for the checkbook and community patience.
Concealed Carry Permit Reciprocity Maps - USA Carry
January 2nd, 2013 09:30 AM
Oregon is shall issue for residents, may issue for non-residents. Oregon will only issue carry permits to residents of bordering states, and does not recognize any other states' permit. Training is a simple one-day course, and I was able to find a course that met both Oregon and Utah training requirements.
Some Oregon counties are more welcoming to non-residents than others. There is one sheriff from a southern Oregon county (can't remember right now) that actually brought staff to Washington a couple of years back to make it easier for non-residents to apply. Obtaining an Oregon permit should not be a problem for a Washington resident.
Washington is shall issue for both residents and non-residents. I kept my Washington CPL when I moved away for a few years -- just changed the address.
January 2nd, 2013 10:06 AM
We relocated from New Mexico and love it except the 6 to 7 months of rain. We are 80 miles south of Portland, and off the freeway about 10 miles.
Kind of a really large weather shock, but if you have made your mind up, it is a nice state to be living in.
Taxes are kind of high, but with some number crunching, I found that my actual outlay for taxes compared to New Mexico came to less than $100.00 a year.
Health and pleasant places to spend retirement is paramount, so take 6 months to look around before you make any permanent plans.
There is a little attitude toward Calif immigrants, as we can attest to. But after 20 years, we are finally getting accepted into the "old tmers" group. We are 65 and 69 YRS old.
Concealed permits were a breeze. Mine in two weeks, and hers in four due to smoooth fingerprints. We are in Linn County.
Stay safe, and have a happy new year. Things will work out for the best. Tom in Lebanon, Oregon. PM if more info requested.
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January 2nd, 2013 06:56 PM
Thank you to all who have responded. Lots of good information here with many perspectives. It is good to hear from you all since there are insights here that are not easily gleaned from just reading the gun laws.
January 2nd, 2013 09:05 PM
Washington is actually two different "States" in their attitudes. Western WA has the influence of Seattle, and eastern WA is more rural and more friendly. I was born and raised there and still make frequent trips there. Come to Montana! (But if you do, avoid Missoula and Butte each for different reasons).
"Gun Free Zones" is where only criminals carry guns.
January 2nd, 2013 09:39 PM
The same dichotomy is also true for Oregon. The western part of Oregon (the I-5 corridor) is very, very liberal. East of the Cascades, its very conservative. Born and raised there. Went back to go to Seminary. Now we live in Montana. We try to go back once a year to get our "Ocean fix"......
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January 2nd, 2013 10:37 PM
What about Wyoming?
I went on a hunting trip there and was amazed by the landscape, the people, and the ability to hunt damn near anywhere you want.
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