come to oregon! you'll like it. i have 3 spots i can go shooting that's not a range all within 15 or 30 miles from my house, never been hastled and meet alot of friendly people. i love it here and don't plan on leaving the state ever
For a guy that is a libertarian at heart, I have a surprisingly high tolerance for Liberals....so I wouldn't have an issue with living in Seattle. That said, I understand that it's not everyone's cup of tea. For my money, I'd probably choose one of three smaller places in the WA or OR to live:
-Bellingham, WA - I spent three months living and working in Bellingham, and while it seemed to be a very left-leaning town, I thoroughly enjoyed being right on the ocean, and also enjoyed the easy access to Seattle and North into Canada.
-Spokane, WA - While some areas are rougher than others, I could definitely deal with living there.
-Portland, OR - I haven't spent a pile of time there, but when I was there I found that it offered many of the same benefits as Seattle, but without the holier than thou attitude.
By the way....I have to give an honorable mention to the Flathead and Bitterroot valleys in Montana, as well as Sandpoint, Idaho (if you can deal with being invaded by tourists every summer). The Flathead valley (specifically Kalispell and Whitefish) is one of my very favorite places on earth, and if I was looking for a place to retire, it would be near the top of my list. It's on the warm side of the continental divide, it offers a reasonable number of bigger-city ameneties while still hanging onto a reasonable amount of small-town rural common sense, and within an 8-hour drive you can find a massive variety and expanse of different terrain, vegetation, fish, and wildlife. Antelope and blue-ribbon trout on the eastern slopes...salmon, halibut, and crab in Puget sound and the Pacific...elk, blacktails, mule deer, whitetails, bears, moose - maybe even sheep or goats if you're really ambitious (and lucky). The NW has a lot to offer - from the lushness of the temperate rain forest, to the majesty of the highest peaks and glaciers, to the stark and forbidding country that you can find in some areas of the eastern slopes.
Can you tell that I'm a big fan of the Western 1/3 of our continent?
I would find another state to move to than WA or Or........ Both are now left coast states and will in the future become even more Kalifornia like........
As for as reciprocity (not what the OP asked) WA will not accept my CO permit but will accept my UT non-resident permit.......... Oregon will NOT accept either one...
If you really want a state with good attitude towards firearms, come on further East to Arizona. Wife and I have settled here now and I love it. Gun laws? Constitutional carry. You don't even need a CCW to carry concealed in this state. It's your right since you're a citizen of the state. If you want to carry where they serve liquor, then you need a CCW. Prices of homes? The market is still undervalued, but it going up. You can buy now and get a great deal on a home. It's much less expensive than either Oregon or Washington.
Hunting not that good - but if you move to the northern part of the state, you can slip over to Colorado maybe even New Mexico where it might be better.
Honestly, Oregon and Washington are going the way California. If you don't want to come to Arizona, I suggest Idaho. It's a pretty good state as well, with much of the same landscape to offer as parts of Oregon and Washington.
First... you need to get off the west coast and into the "free world" ...... your comparing red apples, to green apples, to yellow apples..... when you need oranges.
Jamsaal - would you PLEASE shut up! ;) :)
Arizona is infested with rattlesnakes and javelins, not to mention Californians. It's a horrible climate, 125 degrees in the summer and freezing in the winter (both weeks of winter).
The OP would be much better off retiring in Washington or Oregon. :)
However we are happy for you to come for a weekend and enjoy the Grand Canyon, Colorado River, Sedona and other places were you can leave us your money. :) :)
"Avoid Seattle. Nothing personal, but the CA immigrants ruined it."
The same could be said for Portland these days.
Any place that gets taxpayer funding cannot restrict the carry of firearms. Which includes the Oregon Zoo, who for years thought they could but they finally admitted they cannot restrict CC. OC is still a point of contention with them.
With an OR CHL you can go anywhere, including inside schools unlike WA, except for the usual secure areas of the airport and courts ect....
A couple of thoughts from a Washingtonian.
Stay away from Spokane, Yakima, and Tacoma. Drug trade has ruined them, gang activity is high.
Oregon won't recognize anyone's permits. It's shall-issue for residents, but may issue for nonresidents. Grant County has a de facto policy of shall-issue for nonresidents though.
Both states have Preemption laws, but you gotta read the fine print. Oregon preemption only applies if you have a CHL (Concealed Handgun License), where Washington preemption applies to all gun related regulation. You might get 'looks' and maybe even harassment form ill-informed LEOs in Seattle, but it's legal and protected. The City of Seattle was recently sued and forced to repeal an ordinance that restricted carry in parks via our preemption statute.
Lots of great hunting in both states, so that's probably a wash.
I don't know about how it's written in OR, but here in WA you can carry in schools if you have a CPL (Concealed Pistol License) and are picking up or dropping off a student.
There is no training requirement for a WA CPL, go to your LEO, bring ID, let them print you, wait 10-30 days. WA is also an Open Carry state.
I live in WA, and have spent lots of time in OR. I wouldn't move to Oregon for anything, but the people I know that live there love it.