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    Chambered - Always chambered. Learn your weapon, use the proper holster that is made for your pistol, and practice drawing and reholstering with your finger OFF the trigger, and you'll never have a problem. Look the weapon into the holster if you have clothing that could interfere with your practice. Good luck & be safe.
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    I always carry my g26 chambered.

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    keep your finger out of the trigger guard and indexed until you're ready to pull the trigger. That's all the safety you need with any gun. I carry a Walther PPQ, which has a light, short trigger pull, and an instant reset with a striker fire design. I carry with a round chambered, and have no worry of accidental discharge with the gun. I carry it every day, all day. Never had a problem. By the time I can rack the slide, it may be too late if I need the gun. I'm not taking the time, or the chance by carrying with a gun that's not ready to use when it clears the holster.
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    I carry one in the chamber and cocked.
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    This is pretty simple. If you need a handgun, you're gonna need it in a hurry. No need to rehash the myriad reasons you may not have time to rack a slide. You're already trying to prepare for the worst case scenario by packing a piece in the first place. Why add another variable? You're not gonna have time, period. Prepare for the worst.

    Glocks don't have a super light trigger, but it is all the mechanical safety you get. There's no hammer to alert you that the trigger is moving, and every glock owner knows that if you're stuffing one into a twitchy carry method, or your weapons handling skill is questionable, bad things can happen.

    Use a carry method in which you can have total confidence. If you tried all that and you're still not comfortable, it doesn't make you shiftless, or an amateur. Just carry a different handgun. Carry one with a manual safety. Believe me, you can wipe off a thumb safety much faster than you can rack a slide.

    Manual safeties are not a substitute for sound weapons handling, but I know old timers who would never be comfortable with a glock, period. If that's the case, nothing says you have to use a glock. Plenty of different guns from which to choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmbr5ml View Post
    This is pretty simple. If you need a handgun, you're gonna need it in a hurry.
    I would like to see some statistics on this. What percentage of the time does a split second, quick draw protect the carrier? I have been reading the defensive weapons reports for the last year, and can only recall maybe a couple. Out of hundreds. In the same time, I can think of a dozen ND/AD, and several cases of toddlers grabbing condition 1 weapons and killing themselves. All of which would be avoided with a condition 3 weapon.

    Below is a great site, provides lots of anecdotal reports to throw in the face of those who think we are all living a Wyatt Earp fantasy:

    Guns Save Lives - Stories of Self Defense

    I would be willing to bet that at least 90% of all defensive weapons use in the US occur in the owner's home, and usually involve advance notice. Every third article I read says things like "the owner fetched a gun from his safe". Only once where someone quick-drawing his gun from under his pillow saved his life.

    Hyperbole aside, I am a military veteran, and all the active duty military I work with have the same response to carrying a round chambered all the time: "that is nuts".

    On patrol in Afghanistan or Iraqi. Of course. Back in base, not guarding the gates? Condition 3, without a question. Not a question of "comfort with a weapon". It is a practical estimation of the threat expected in a given area, and how ready you need to be to respond to it.

    Wandering around through dark alleys at 0200 in the morning? OK, condition 1 is called for. But maybe you shouldn't be there to begin with.

    Like we always say to our young soldiers "nothing good ever happens after midnight".

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    Quote Originally Posted by TX expat View Post
    I'd suggest that you either shoot another Glock, or have another Glock shooter try your 26, or both would be best.

    A 5 lb. pull isn't what I would call a hair trigger, so the first thing I'd do is verify that your trigger is about what the average Glock has.

    If it is, then it's just a matter of you getting used to it. If it's light, then I'd definitely have a look at why it's light. If you purchased it used, maybe the previous owner did some trigger work, which might explain a lighter than normal trigger. If it was new, then you'd still want to verify that it's 'you' and not some sort of factory defect.
    I agree. OP, your statement about the trigger is a red flag. Go to the gun store and dry fire other Glocks. If yours feels different- call Glock. Otherwise, in an appropriate holster, one in the pipe is just as safe for glocks as other pistols. But that's my opinion. If someone chooses not to carry a Glock that way I don't have a problem with that. Their gun, their choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dben002 View Post
    Mike, it may be me and not the trigger...but the G-26 seems to have a dangerous trigger compared to the DA triggers I'm used to in my LC9 and my LCP. But I shoot the G-26 much better than either of mine but I am not sure if I need to be afraid of it????
    This is why I personally believe in settling on one defensive gun and staying with it. Muscle memory is just that...any extra mental capacity used to consider a different safety, pull, mag release, etc....all can mean the difference between life and death.

    Others will disagree, but it does require cognitive engagement to override muscle memory. So I keep my (2) carry guns the same platform, same as possible.

    I know from experience because I practice heavily with SA revolvers for competition (spring/summer) and do my semi-auto training fall/winter. There are hurdles to overcome and they are not completely overcome, so additional precautions are taken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBSR View Post
    Chambered - Always chambered. Learn your weapon, use the proper holster that is made for your pistol, and practice drawing and reholstering with your finger OFF the trigger, and you'll never have a problem. Look the weapon into the holster if you have clothing that could interfere with your practice. Good luck & be safe.
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    Rack a Glock during draw, or carry in chamber

    Not to go off subject but I was taught in the military:

    Condition 4 - no magazine in gun
    Condition 3 - magazine in gun
    Condition 2 - does not apply
    Condition 1 - round in chamber

    Am I missing something? Never heard of condition 0
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    Quote Originally Posted by tmarks11 View Post
    I would like to see some statistics on this. What percentage of the time does a split second, quick draw protect the carrier? I have been reading the defensive weapons reports for the last year, and can only recall maybe a couple. Out of hundreds. In the same time, I can think of a dozen ND/AD, and several cases of toddlers grabbing condition 1 weapons and killing themselves. All of which would be avoided with a condition 3 weapon.

    Below is a great site, provides lots of anecdotal reports to throw in the face of those who think we are all living a Wyatt Earp fantasy:

    Guns Save Lives - Stories of Self Defense

    I would be willing to bet that at least 90% of all defensive weapons use in the US occur in the owner's home, and usually involve advance notice. Every third article I read says things like "the owner fetched a gun from his safe". Only once where someone quick-drawing his gun from under his pillow saved his life.

    Hyperbole aside, I am a military veteran, and all the active duty military I work with have the same response to carrying a round chambered all the time: "that is nuts".

    On patrol in Afghanistan or Iraqi. Of course. Back in base, not guarding the gates? Condition 3, without a question. Not a question of "comfort with a weapon". It is a practical estimation of the threat expected in a given area, and how ready you need to be to respond to it.

    Wandering around through dark alleys at 0200 in the morning? OK, condition 1 is called for. But maybe you shouldn't be there to begin with.

    Like we always say to our young soldiers "nothing good ever happens after midnight".
    If you check the section of the forum this is in, it's safe to assume the OP was referencing a carry weapon. The condition you keep weapons in at home is a different subject. If you're legitimately concerned about a toddler grabbing your carry pistol while you're carrying it, I really don't know what to tell you.

    I'm also a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan, many times over. I never left the safety of a base without a round in the chamber of both my rifle and sidearm. Transition to the sidearm is something we trained on, extensively, as it's only done when you have a stoppage while actively engaging. Those drills are predicated on a sidearm ready to fire. We started getting issued glocks in 2008, and there were guys who didn't want them and kept their M9s. They weren't comfortable carrying the glock, with no hammer or safety. I liked the glock because we already carried a lot, and it was small.

    As far as carrying in public here in the US, it's a matter of looking at the law and using common sense. You can't draw a handgun on someone because you think they may be a threat. There must be a threat. So basically you're not justified in drawing unless shooting is, or is very likely to be, justifiable. If presentation alone ends the threat, great. What if it doesn't? Yes, if you need a handgun, you're going to need it quickly. You can do what you want. I'm gonna plan for the worst and carry a loaded weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dben002 View Post
    Mike, it may be me and not the trigger...but the G-26 seems to have a dangerous trigger compared to the DA triggers I'm used to in my LC9 and my LCP. But I shoot the G-26 much better than either of mine but I am not sure if I need to be afraid of it????
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    If you are uncomfortable with the gun as/is

    Click on options and trigger springs. Check out the NY and NY2 options.

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    I think you issues are legitimate to you. Do what you feel is comfortable to you. I highly encourage you to carry chambered. Get a good holster and practice unholstering and dry firing. As most have stated before me, do what you feel is best for you. The rest is just advice..
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    JaxRolo, condition 1 is round in chamber with the safety on. Since the Glock doesn't have a safety that doesn't apply. But condition 0 is round in chamber with safety on.
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