This is a discussion on Mental Health Question within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by ccw9mm You gotta cut back on the coffee, man. I'm reading it as: spouse had two former boyfriends, the second of which ...
I had hoped that as a society we would see the need to help our fellow citizens because of this incident. That maybe we would realize inanimate objects don't kill people. Instead our society does the same old tired ineffective thing. And because they want to attack anyone who has ever asked or pleaded for help there will now be a reluctance to ask for that help for fear of being persecuted.
I hope that she is able to get her CC without the persecution. But I would do so quickly as it is about to get a lot worse!
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Posted by pfries:"Growing up, going off the deep end because life is cruel, or because you live in fantasy land and donít understand reality?
That is what I have a problem with. "
Then you must have a problem with about 80% of Americans because that is an apt description of the average American today. They are either far left or far right, both of which are a complete fantasy. They believe evrything the media and their political gurus tell them (right and left). I carry a gun and I am sane but I no longer am really sure about anybody else!
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The questions on the app were pretty much the same as the background check when purchasing. If you answer yes to any of the magic questions then your disq. Dont believe CBI has any medical or mental records to check if your lying.
Last edited by detective; January 14th, 2013 at 01:41 AM.
Today, with the new Colorado amendment making it legal to smoke marijuana for your own personal use, you will be unable to obtain a Colorado CHP if you use marijuana legally or illegally in Colorado. The background check for a Colorado CHP still goes through the Federal databases and marijuana use is illegal under US Federal law.
From what I know and I have researched it: NICS database includes: records of felonies and misdemeanor convictions, records of felonies and misdemeanors indictments, records of dishonorable discharges from military, orders of protection, and records of court-ordered commitments to psychiatric institutions. These are all records sent to NICS and FBI by the states (Although one problem is some state's only give minimal info to NICS, which allows individuals who would ordinarily be flagged to slip through).
You can appeal the "red STOP" on a NICS check. I talked to a person who had appealed a felony conviction as grounds for rejection for a permit and he was given permission from a Judge to have one (though it may have had restrictions, I don't know) - this in an area where the final decision on permits for self-defense (CCW) is ultimately in the hands of state Supreme Court Judge upon recommendations from his Permit Officer. There is an interview and evidence can be introduced by the applicant)
The advice to get it figured out 'before' applying is good, and the fact that you asked the question tells me you are doing that. I think I'd start with a lawyer who handles concealed carry issues. Recommendations related to what the law means are best gotten from a lawyer experienced in the field. Accumulate your data and take her medical records including any reports from the institution and discharge assessments to the first meeting with the lawyer. You might get out of there for an hour's consultation if you have the 'right stuff' with you.
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I should have been more clear.
Sorry to hijack, but this brings up a point on recent legislative issues.
Everyone wants to keep firearms out of the hands of the mentally ill. Who gets to define mentally ill? What specifically are exclusionary criteria? If a person has ever had a prescription for anxiety or depression medications? Ever had counselling or therapy of any kind? Once the line is drawn in the sand, who gets to decide how far to move it to one side or the other? This is just one legislative detail that we all need to pay attention to as the battle lines are drawn, and moved. I'm concerned that if they too broadly define it, will this discourage people from seeking help? If so, this could indeed have detrimental effects for the very people who need help in order to remain well adjusted. Everyone goes through difficult life events that may necessitate a little help to get through and then they are fine. That's normal. As a society, we shouldn't penalize people for that. Just a few random thoughts on the subject.
If your wife went voluntarily and was not court ordered committed, then I believe she will be fine on her CHL. I'm not a lawyer though.
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