NRA reps say Biden/Obama already had mind made up

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    NRA reps say Biden/Obama already had mind made up

    The NRA reps that met with VP Biden came away from their meeting stating that the most radical administration in the history ( my words) of the US already had their mind made up before speaking with the NRA on gun control issues. I have to ask, why does this administration's stance on ideas of gun control continue to be a surprise? If the NRA thought anything positive would come from their meeting then far too much credit was given to Obama's people.
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    I believe the NRA is spot on about the Obama agenda. After the initial shock of the tragedy wore off, those two probably damn near wet their pants. The shooting opened the door to try to ram through their forever agenda based on pure emotional momentum, not fact.

    Still, seems odd that they would want to ban guns. Given their socialist tendencies you would expect them to realize its not really fair that you and I own guns when some people have none. To be consistent they should be taking our guns and redistributing them.
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    NRA reps say Biden/Obama already had mind made up

    I lean toward a more sinister motive from the obama regime. I believe they want to disarm and or minimize any resistance from the citizenry of America.
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    I didn't know he even had a mind to make up.
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    So far there are already somewhere near 30 states passing laws eliminating Fed power to regulate guns and ammo/mag etc. in their states, I bet Biden/Obama are livid LOL

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    Amen Kinberpack, all of the proposed regulation is to disarm the common folk. The people advocating these changes are already provided security at taxpayer expense, or are well heeled enough to hire private armed security on their own. The citizens are fully polarized on so many significant issues and our representatives pander to their own self benefit.

    Hmmmn, taxation without representation. Where have I heard that before......

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    Sure, they have an agenda. Meeting the NRA was nothing but for show. They are trying to rush this through while high emotions are in play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceoky View Post
    So far there are already somewhere near 30 states passing laws eliminating Fed power to regulate guns and ammo/mag etc. in their states, I bet Biden/Obama are livid LOL
    Is there a link or website somewhere I can read about which states that have passed these laws? I am curious about Missouri specifically but if there is a comprehensive list of all the states that have done this and what laws that would be great also.
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    The obama Directed Biden task force is nothing more then smoke and mirrors , the weapons ban has been drafted and approved regardless of the recommendations of the task force. It is also being used by the administration as a means to divert attention away from the economy, budget, debt ceiling and the embassy investigation(s) to name just a few of our problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawah View Post
    Is there a link or website somewhere I can read about which states that have passed these laws? I am curious about Missouri specifically but if there is a comprehensive list of all the states that have done this and what laws that would be great also.
    I am sorry but I do not have the link "handy" but I can post this for you.

    South Carolina is among a growing number of states that are aiming to keep Uncle Sam’s hands off their weapons if Congress decides to stiffen gun control laws in response to last month’s deadly shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

    Eight states — Montana, Alaska, Arizona, Idaho, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah and Wyoming — have adopted laws that would exempt guns that were made in the state from federal regulation as long as they remain in the state

    Another 21, including South Carolina, have introduced similar legislation

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    Yep, it's all smoke and mirrors, political theater, a dog and pony show. They already know what they want. The task force is just to give them credibility and deflect blame.

    There is a little trick used in the live music performance business that illustrates this. The entertainer asks the crowd, "Do we have any requests out there tonight?" Then everybody shouts out what they want to hear. The band then does the song they were going to do all along and each person the crowd thinks it was someone else's request. The crowd feels good because they feel connected and that the entertainers really listened to them.

    Same thing here: they ask for ideas, ideas are tendered while making sure to include the real agenda, then they do what they want to do anyway and everyone thinks it was all seriously considered and the best ideas chosen. Hah!

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    I will give up my guns when the secret service gives up theirs.
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    They already had their minds made up. Surprise how is that news Obama has been tell you all a long what he was going do .
    This is not news.

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    On a serious note....Despite the fact that America the Liberal is the "new" America. I think someday the Government is going to go too far. In light of the fact that there are still very bad men in MY World, I will do whatever neccessary to defend myself. I'm more concerned about the evil piece of garbage lurking down the block than I am radical Islam or the growing Socialist mentality in our Government. Having said that, a gun grab that denies my right to self preservation will be met with serious activism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceoky View Post
    South Carolina is among a growing number of states that are aiming to keep Uncle Sam’s hands off their weapons if Congress decides to stiffen gun control laws. Eight states have adopted laws that would exempt guns that were made in the state from federal regulation as long as they remain in the state. Another 21, including South Carolina, have introduced similar legislation
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    What would be even BETTER is if the states don't even have the made within the state exclusion and flat out refuse to recognize the federal mandate and still engage in interstate commerce, at least with like minded states.
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