Revive the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act

This is a discussion on Revive the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; As far as I am concerned I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO FILE WITH MY STATE FOR A PERMIT, I believe the 2nd amendment already gives ...

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    As far as I am concerned I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO FILE WITH MY STATE FOR A PERMIT, I believe the
    2nd amendment already gives me that right period, keep the government out of it, we should not
    have to pay for something we was given many years ago. Permits are already a intrusion on my rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    So again, let's go for something that will benefit a guy like jorge (OP) who has a sticky situation; and
    as long time participants will know, I have almost the same situation when I pass through that region
    of the country---and worse, hit a brick wall at the Jersey border.
    I understand your frustration. I deal with it quite a bit myself when I have to cross the border into Maryland when I go to visit family there. I would hope you're right that it would simply recognize permits from all other states, and that they would leave it at that. I am just very leery of the idea of giving control of the issue to the federal gov't.

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    Given in to so called "reasonable gun laws/gun control laws" is what got us to this point in history, fighting like hell to hang on to what we have left. Its OK to say No!!!!!

    Keep in mind the federal government is the biggest violator of the 2nd amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    If only it were as simple as if your DL is good here, it's good there. If your CWL is good here, it's good there. Somehow that's too simple for our gov't.
    That's it exactly. I've said it somewhere else in this forum . . . I have no idea why the "full faith and credit" clause does not apply to CWPs

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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    As far as I'm concerned, it can stay there forever. I DO NOT want the federal government regulating my carry. I can see them requiring mental health screenings with hand picked physicians. They'll make it so difficult it won't be worth the effort to attempt to carry.
    Unless I'm mistaken - the act amends the current laws to force states to recognize Concealed Carry permits from other states. There's no federal anything. In short, this IS the "full faith and credit" clause of the constitution being applied. California could no longer tell me that I couldn't carry my weapon into their state.

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    I agree with the Archer

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    In short, this IS the "full faith and credit" clause of the constitution being applied.
    Hmm....I like this kind of thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jemsaal View Post
    Unless I'm mistaken - the act amends the current laws to force states to recognize Concealed Carry permits from other states. There's no federal anything. In short, this IS the "full faith and credit" clause of the constitution being applied. California could no longer tell me that I couldn't carry my weapon into their state.
    That's not correct.

    The bill states that states that presently have concealed carry in their states must honor other states licenses.
    You would still not be allowed to carry in Illinois, and I suspect other states would drop their concealed carry to disallow others who don't have the amount of training they think is required.

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    I disagree with ANYTHING that starts with "National..."
    Most of our regs should be determined by individual states.
    At least if a state (NY) starts doing stupid stuff, I don't have to visit the place...I'll just pass that exit on the freeway.
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    In the highly unlikely event this piece of legislation does gain passage, I see most of the current may-issue states going non-issue before allowing out-of-staters to carry within their borders.
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    I could agree with this as long as it remains in its original form. It requires states that allow concealed carry to recognize other state's permits. The carrier still has to obey the laws of the state he is currently in. If it gets changed to anything else, I would no longer support it.

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    In the highly unlikely event this piece of legislation does gain passage, I see most of the current may-issue states going non-issue before allowing out-of-staters to carry within their borders.

    Mike1956, this is exactly what concerns me. While I want to like it, I think it would end up hurting more than helping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbald1 View Post
    In the highly unlikely event this piece of legislation does gain passage, I see most of the current may-issue states going non-issue before allowing out-of-staters to carry within their borders.
    Mike1956, this is exactly what concerns me. While I want to like it, I think it would end up hurting more than helping.
    I don't.
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    Sorry, not too big on anything "national" or "universal" at the moment. But thanks for stopping by.
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    Why do you believe that giving the federal government more power and more control over your life will in anyway increase your personal freedoms?

    Stop looking to the federal government to solve your problems.

    If you want another State to have a reciprocity agreement with your State then you need to lobby the elected official in your State and coordinate with the constituents of the elected officials in the other State and get them to lobby in support of your proposal.

    I know, it sounds sooooo hard and sooooo time consuming...boo...hoo...hoo.

    I know, you want it now and you don't want to work to get what you want...you just want the federal government to give it to you even if it means giving up your control over it.

    Your problem is with the other State. Talk to the elected officials of the other State and find out exactly Why their State won't allow the CHL holders of your State to carry in their State. Then work out a mutually beneficial agreement with both States which will get you what you want.

    It really is that simple, but it requires a concerted effort.

    You have to work for the things you want.
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