GA kid with CC thinks he can carry everywhere
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January 20th, 2013 09:24 AM
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Although, I wouldn't too quickly dismiss the "...a judge told me so..." line. That may well have happened. I am constantly surprised by the ignorance of those who, by training and professional responsibility, should know better.
Most likely the judge said no such thing. People often hear what they want when they ask a question, so a well-informed judge's answer "You can carry in any state that recognizes our license." may have gotten a little condensed when translated into knucklehead.
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January 20th, 2013 09:24 AM
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January 20th, 2013 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by
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It took me about 2 weeks to get my carry license. Of course I had to wait til I'd been a resident for 90 days before I could apply. So for those 3 1/2 months I spent my time researching all the laws regarding carrying. I certainly didn't get my license and expect to be able to carry wherever I want, whenever I want.
how long ago did you apply?? im not finding any residency requirement in the OCGA...you either live in GA or you dont(or youre on orders with the military and they issue you a license but military is actually exempt from needing a license)
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January 20th, 2013 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by
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Although, I wouldn't too quickly dismiss the "...a judge told me so..." line. That may well have happened. I am constantly surprised by the ignorance of those who, by training and professional responsibility, should know better.Most likely the judge said no such thing. People often hear what they want when they ask a question, so a well-informed judge's answer "You can carry in any state that recognizes our license." may have gotten a little condensed when translated into knucklehead.
In the state of Ga. you do not go before a judge to get a GFL. The only time you would, would be in the event you were denied for the GFL by the local sheriffs dept. to start off with. Being that there was some discrepancy that caused the original denial, I seriously doubt that a judge would be so outta touch with reality and the laws surrounding something so commen as a concealed carry license as to inform some guy he can ignore the original guidelines and simply follow his special instructions. Come on, would anyone here seriously even ponder that guys story for a second... If so, that my friend is absolutely laughable.
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January 20th, 2013 09:55 AM
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Re: GA kid with CC thinks he can carry everywhere
In Alabama you can get yours.the same day. Only.costs $20 too lol just renewed mine a couple weeks ago.
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January 20th, 2013 10:11 AM
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Oh we'll you tried. It's his responsibility to learn the laws of CC. If he doesn't he would just be another news story for the anti guns.
Why people shouldn't be allowed to conceal carry without knowing the laws. Story at 6. I can see the headlines now.
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January 20th, 2013 10:14 AM
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Idiots come in all sizes and professions. I was at a gun show last year, and a young man and woman were manning a table offering defensive handgun instruction. Because I've some experience and interest in the topic, I stood nearby listening to him tell some novice shooters, that if they took his course, they would get an "enhanced" CCW, which would be accepted in many more states than the standard CCW, and that you could basically carry anywhere. (Note: There is an enhanced CCW here in MS, but his explanation of it was seriously lacking).
Out of curiosity, I said "So if I take your course, I can carry my pistol on my person concealed, when I fly on commercial aircraft?" He replied, " Yes sir, this enhanced permit allows you to carry anywhere". I choked back my first reaction which was "Stupid hurts", but did tell him he needed to do a bit more research on what he was "selling" prior to making a huge, HUGE mistake.
They are EVERYWHERE! Be safe.
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January 20th, 2013 10:21 AM
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I have an acquaintance the same way, he swears his Utah license allows him to carry in every state, including Illinois, he won't listen to reason. He also swears a cop told him that it would be legal to shoot someone standing by his truck if he thought that person was going to break into it.
He got the Utah license because he didn't have to shoot, he didn't see why a CCW holder would need to show proficiency with a handgun.
Fortunately I have no reason to be around him.
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January 20th, 2013 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by
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Out of curiosity, I said "So if I take your course, I can carry my pistol on my person concealed, when I fly on commercial aircraft?" He replied, " Yes sir, this enhanced permit allows you to carry anywhere". I choked back my first reaction which was "Stupid hurts", but did tell him he needed to do a bit more research on what he was "selling" prior to making a huge, HUGE mistake.
It sounds like he was referring to an HR218 class for retired LEO.
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January 20th, 2013 11:06 AM
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...I've trained rookies who've been told by those running the academy things that were TOTALLY illegal based on written law...had citizens tell me "Officer X told me this"...and found out he DID...and heard the straight skinny from the guys' neighbor's pool man...pros or citizens will tell a person ANYTHING...
...I just tell them all the same thing...you'd better look it up and read it in the law with your own eyes...the judge or cop or pool man AIN'T gonna be standing there before the judge with you...and they AIN'T gonna do your time if you get it wrong...we had a term for such astute info in the Corps...but here we gots rules...
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January 20th, 2013 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by
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I have an acquaintance the same way, he swears his Utah license allows him to carry in every state, including Illinois, he won't listen to reason. He also swears a cop told him that it would be legal to shoot someone standing by his truck if he thought that person was going to break into it.
He got the Utah license because he didn't have to shoot, he didn't see why a CCW holder would need to show proficiency with a handgun.
Fortunately I have no reason to be around him.
Looks like he wont be an acquaintance for to much longer.
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January 20th, 2013 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by
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It sounds like he was referring to an HR218 class for retired LEO.
With all due respect, if he was, he was still wrong. I'm a retired federal law enforcement officer, and carry under the authority of HR 218 or LEOSA. For over 27 years I flew on commercial aircraft armed. As a retired LEO, under the authority of LEOSA, I am NOT authorized to carry, within the cabin of that aircraft any longer. I hope you can prove me wrong, but I'm 99.9% certain.
It's why I drive everywhere, because I'm not giving up my guns.
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January 20th, 2013 11:26 AM
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January 20th, 2013 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by
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In the state of Ga. you do not go before a judge to get a GFL. The only time you would, would be in the event you were denied for the GFL by the local sheriffs dept. to start off with. Being that there was some discrepancy that caused the original denial, I seriously doubt that a judge would be so outta touch with reality and the laws surrounding something so commen as a concealed carry license as to inform some guy he can ignore the original guidelines and simply follow his special instructions. Come on, would anyone here seriously even ponder that guys story for a second... If so, that my friend is absolutely laughable.

You do go to a County Probate Judge to have the CC permit issued in Ga. This may be where he was confused about the "judge" part. In some small counties on a particular day he could have indeed come before a "judge" for his. I would expect that the person issuing the permit would have told him there were restrictions had he asked, most of these "judges" are career public servants who are well versed in the old " don't say anything you can get pinned down on" way of answering questions. The Probate Judge usually was the assistant to the old Probate Judge that retired.
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January 20th, 2013 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by
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You do go to a County Probate Judge to have the CC permit issued in Ga. This may be where he was confused about the "judge" part. In some small counties on a particular day he could have indeed come before a "judge" for his. I would expect that the person issuing the permit would have told him there were restrictions had he asked, most of these "judges" are career public servants who are well versed in the old " don't say anything you can get pinned down on" way of answering questions. The Probate Judge usually was the assistant to the old Probate Judge that retired.
I seriously doubt that anyone could go anywhere in the state of Ga in this day and age and have their fingerprints ran thought the FBI database as well as a criminal background check and then see a judge to have a laminated and signed GFL issued to them; all in the same day. Heck, I'd even say in the same week, for that matter. If that is the case I would like for anyone to show what county or city that will do this. I have been a licensed concealed carry guy for 25+ years, and I have never seen or heard of anything remotely close to what you and this guy stated. Not trying to be a hard azz, but if it can be done there should be evidence of it somewhere, so please let me know, and please only site times and locations withing the last, lets say, 20 years or so.. If im wrong, ill be glad to concede the point.
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January 20th, 2013 12:34 PM
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Maybe it's time for a "You show me yours and I'll show you mine" session with this kid. Perhaps his permit is all in his head.

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