Yep, that's pretty much it. If you are outed, you just leave, no harm no foul.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbum
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Yep, that's pretty much it. If you are outed, you just leave, no harm no foul.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbum
Welcome to the Forum!
It's a bit easier here in MI, but the question does come up. Like others, I choose to steer clear of those places where I cannot carry legally. My advice would be to join as many of your state-based firearms organizations as you can; get involved and try to be a force for change--change YOU can believe in. It doesn't always work, as we saw here in MI with a Republican governor who choose to let his emotions get the better of him (that story isn't over by the way, we just went back to the war room to plan our next move), but it absolutely does make a difference!
Good luck!
Here in AZ "no gun" signs have force of law. But unless the sign is very prominent I think most people ignore them. Oftentimes it's hard to notice them, and if for some reason someone says something you just say sorry you didn't see the sign and leave.
Our local hospital it's a bit hard to miss. My Mother was there for a week awhile back, and they have a HUGE sign with 6 inch letters right on the doors!
Fortunately there was a side entrance with no sign. :smile:
The Second Amendment is not the whole Constitution.The right to bear arms was not even considered in the original Constitution, it is an amendment. If the Founding Fathers had one over-riding concern about rights, it was the right of property. For a state to pass laws telling a property owner what he can do with his property is a direct violation of everything the Originators of the Constitution believed in. I am a strong believer in the Constitution and believe that all of the rights should be upheld, not just one or two. We are getting in the habit of using the Constitution like we use the Bible, we pick only those verses that agree with our point of view. You have to take the work as a whole, not parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by RonM0710
State owned property should be open to all, including those who carry (which includes me) but private property should not be regulated by the state. If you don't like the property owners policies, then stay off his property. He is already subject to lawsuit, so no need for additional laws there either.
Defending our rights by allowing the state to take away others' rights is the "slippery slope" to losing all rights.
I got gas at a station just south of Nashvegas and they had a no guns sign on their door. I didn't notice it and went in anyways and the owner noticed my Alabama gun license and asked me if I was armed, I replied "of course" he replied "good for you, we put the No guns sign up but I'd rather you have the means to protect yourself young man" I paid for my gas and headed out the door.
When we went to a gas station in east TN, not only was it not posted, but there was an AR in the window of the clerk's office, right up front for all to see. :danceban:
I tend to frequent the same places and do some beforehand research on policies for any major places I haven't been to. Non-posted businesses get my business.
I believe the signage has to be extremely specific with the quoted statute on it in order for it to be legally enforceable. If it isn't, then I believe all they can do is boot you off the premises, and maybe make you miserable with the cops for an hour. But that's up to you.
I would bet most of the signs you see do not meet the state requirements for signage.....
When I lived in TN that was the case....
This. its your comfort level.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbum
I think you are looking at this wrong. I don't know of any state that prevents a private property owner from banning guns on their premises. What I have a problem with is states that make it a crime to carry onto a posted property.Quote:
Originally Posted by wjh2657
Luckily my state does not do that so I just take my buisness elsewhere when a store posts a "no guns" sign but at least I don't have to worry if I miss a sign that I might be arrested and loose my 2A rights.
Florida...it's not just for snowbirds coming down from NY and NJ in the winter.
There are many states where gunbuster signs don't carry the weight of law, and are generally just more gun friendly. I'm guessing there will be some people migrating to one of these states sometime in the future.