This is a discussion on It's not easy to always carry within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by jbum Concealed is concealed just sayin. Yep, that's pretty much it. If you are outed, you just leave, no harm no foul....
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It's a bit easier here in MI, but the question does come up. Like others, I choose to steer clear of those places where I cannot carry legally. My advice would be to join as many of your state-based firearms organizations as you can; get involved and try to be a force for change--change YOU can believe in. It doesn't always work, as we saw here in MI with a Republican governor who choose to let his emotions get the better of him (that story isn't over by the way, we just went back to the war room to plan our next move), but it absolutely does make a difference!
Here in AZ "no gun" signs have force of law. But unless the sign is very prominent I think most people ignore them. Oftentimes it's hard to notice them, and if for some reason someone says something you just say sorry you didn't see the sign and leave.
Our local hospital it's a bit hard to miss. My Mother was there for a week awhile back, and they have a HUGE sign with 6 inch letters right on the doors!
Fortunately there was a side entrance with no sign.
State owned property should be open to all, including those who carry (which includes me) but private property should not be regulated by the state. If you don't like the property owners policies, then stay off his property. He is already subject to lawsuit, so no need for additional laws there either.
Defending our rights by allowing the state to take away others' rights is the "slippery slope" to losing all rights.
Retired Marine, Retired School Teacher, Independent voter, Goldwater Conservative.
I got gas at a station just south of Nashvegas and they had a no guns sign on their door. I didn't notice it and went in anyways and the owner noticed my Alabama gun license and asked me if I was armed, I replied "of course" he replied "good for you, we put the No guns sign up but I'd rather you have the means to protect yourself young man" I paid for my gas and headed out the door.
When we went to a gas station in east TN, not only was it not posted, but there was an AR in the window of the clerk's office, right up front for all to see.
I tend to frequent the same places and do some beforehand research on policies for any major places I haven't been to. Non-posted businesses get my business.
I believe the signage has to be extremely specific with the quoted statute on it in order for it to be legally enforceable. If it isn't, then I believe all they can do is boot you off the premises, and maybe make you miserable with the cops for an hour. But that's up to you.
"Americans have the will to resist because you have weapons. If you don't have a gun, freedom of speech has no power." - Yoshimi Ishikawa
I would bet most of the signs you see do not meet the state requirements for signage.....
When I lived in TN that was the case....
Luckily my state does not do that so I just take my buisness elsewhere when a store posts a "no guns" sign but at least I don't have to worry if I miss a sign that I might be arrested and loose my 2A rights.
“Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion... in private self-defense.”
John Adams (Americas 2nd US President)
Florida...it's not just for snowbirds coming down from NY and NJ in the winter.
Know Guns, Know Safety, Know Peace.
No Guns, No Safety, No Peace.
Guns are like sex and air...its no big deal until YOU can't get any.
There are many states where gunbuster signs don't carry the weight of law, and are generally just more gun friendly. I'm guessing there will be some people migrating to one of these states sometime in the future.