What stats are available in reference to the initial question? None. They don't exist. That was answered numerous pages ago by numerous people...including several experienced statistical professionals. I then attempted to provide some stats regarding hunting and you thought they were useless. I then produced anecdotal evidence and you said the cases didn't apply and proved nothing. Again, there are no stats that will satisfy you. Lock the thread if you don't want any other discussions or topics related to the issue.