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    Driving to Fla this summer, have my Pa CCW. any pointers CCing in Fla?


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    Follow the same principles as you do at home. Concealed is concealed.No one will know
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    Follow all the safety rules of the road(s) and you should be fine.
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    As long as it's kept holstered there's no problem. Accidental exposure may cause some inconvenience, but it is not illegal. Don't carry in "bars" or the bar area of a restaurant--or even pass thru it. Otherwise alcohol-serving restaurants are okay. Signs carry no weight, just keep concealed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    As long as it's kept holstered there's no problem. Accidental exposure may cause some inconvenience, but it is not illegal. Don't carry in "bars" or the bar area of a restaurant--or even pass thru it. Otherwise alcohol-serving restaurants are okay. Signs carry no weight, just keep concealed.

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    Mostly good advice, however, the even pass through the bar area is nonsense. After all every restaurant has several undercover officers with X-ray and metal detectors sitting I the bar section of restaurants just waiting to arrest you for passing through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badbullgator View Post
    Mostly good advice, however, the even pass through the bar area is nonsense. After all every restaurant has several undercover officers with X-ray and metal detectors sitting I the bar section of restaurants just waiting to arrest you for passing through.
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    Not nonsense at all. The statute and case law are clear - you may not enter the bar area while carrying.

    Here's Jon Gutmacher's take on it, from Florida firearms, page 76:

    In other words, if you go in a restaurant, you can't go in the bar, you can't even walk through the bar
    Whether or not there are "undercover officers with X-ray and metal detectors sitting I the bar section" is irrelevant. The law is clear, and as licensees we are obligated to follow it.

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    X-rays and metal detectors...probably not. But an anti- or an off-duty cop who doesn't like civilians being armed, or someone who has a vendetta, and has noticed that you're carrying (I now play the "spot the CCW" game all the time, just for fun)...maybe. If someone knows you're carrying and knows you're not supposed to be in the bar section, and they see you in there, they could cause you trouble. Remote possibility? Sure. But it's a possibility. Besides, the laws concerning this are pretty liberal. You can sit at your table and order drinks for the bar. Hell, you can even get falling-down drunk at your table. You just can't be in the bar section. Also, if you DO choose to get drunk at your table, you can't handle your gun while drunk. You can have it on you, but once it's in your hands, it's "in use" while intoxicated (and thus highly illegal). If you care enough about the intricacies of Florida CC laws, I'd definitely suggest picking up the Gutmacher book. We're very lucky to have that resource. Some of the grammar and spelling is questionable at times, which is a pity, because someone once offered to edit it for him and he declined, but it's well-written and conversational where it can be. Lots of real-world examples and enough personality to be entertaining. Seventh edition is the current one. Anything older is not to be used/trusted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattInFla View Post
    Not nonsense at all. The statute and case law are clear - you may not enter the bar area while carrying.

    Here's Jon Gutmacher's take on it, from Florida firearms, page 76:



    Whether or not there are "undercover officers with X-ray and metal detectors sitting I the bar section" is irrelevant. The law is clear, and as licensees we are obligated to follow it.

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    I was going to quote Jon also, but you beat me to it. Not getting caught does not make it legal. All it takes is one glimpse by an Anti and it could be game over for your CWFL. Of the relatively few "prohibited places" in Fl, this is one of the more like scenerios I will encounter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by afojc View Post
    Driving to Fla this summer, have my Pa CCW. any pointers CCing in Fla?
    Watch the speed limits. It's not Pa. Speed traps abound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    As long as it's kept holstered there's no problem. Accidental exposure may cause some inconvenience, but it is not illegal. Don't carry in "bars" or the bar area of a restaurant--or even pass thru it. Otherwise alcohol-serving restaurants are okay. Signs carry no weight, just keep concealed.

    Enjoy the weather!
    This is all correct.


    Some more info:

    Places off-limits when carrying:
    1. any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05
    2. any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station
    3. any detention facility, prison, or jail; any courthouse
    4. any courtroom*
    5. any polling place
    6. any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district
    7. any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof
    8. any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms
    9. any school administration building
    10. any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption*
    11. any elementary or secondary school facility
    12. any area technical center
    13. any college or university facility*
    14. inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport*
    15. any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law

    Alcohol and Drugs:

    Deadly Force / Castle Doctrine:
    Florida is a Castle Doctrine state and does have a stand-your-ground law.

    Open Carry:
    Prohibited in all public areas.

    Localities with Varying Laws:
    Florida has pre-emption, localities are prohibited from enacting more stringent laws.

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