FL & PA Reciprocity Changed! -- OH & AZ Non-Resident -- Other Info

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    The PA AG has made a press release. Press: The Attorney General's Press Office - Pennsylvania Office of Attorney General
    FL website has already been updated to show that PA will not honor A FL Non_resident Permit:
    Concealed Carry Reciprocity - Division of Licensing, FDACS

    But the press release states FL non-resident permits will be honor until June 8, 2013 to give people time to make other arrangements.
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    I understand that it most likely will have no impact, but feel free to contact the PA attorney general's office as I did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xXxplosive View Post
    Virginia Nonresident should do it..............
    I'm not going to go blow $100 on a VA permit, only to have PA close the VA "loophole" while my application is being processed(like they did with FL)

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    Who said that.............?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Slider View Post
    The PA AG has made a press release. Press: The Attorney General's Press Office - Pennsylvania Office of Attorney General
    FL website has already been updated to show that PA will not honor A FL Non_resident Permit:
    Concealed Carry Reciprocity - Division of Licensing, FDACS

    But the press release states FL non-resident permits will be honor until June 8, 2013 to give people time to make other arrangements.

    If I just read it correctly June 8th is for PA residence only
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    Similar laws/rulings were recently reversed in LA and another state when people started calling in and letting them know how much the state would lose in tourism dollars. I believe the calls were mostly made to the State Police HQ and the tourism committees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    I'm confused. Why are Pennsylvania residents carrying in Pennsylvania on Florida permits in the first place?
    I've wondered this myself as it is inexpensive and usually easy to get a PA license. My guess is that the only
    place in the state where problems arise is in Philadelphia; so Phila residents find it quicker and easier
    to get a FL non-resident and use that. Philadelphia police have in the past arrested Philadelphia
    residents carrying on a FL license; though that was at the time legal. My hunch is they changed this
    to make it plain that you have to have a PA license if you live in PA. *and to keep the Phila police
    from making the same mistake again*
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    In LA it was just Law Enforcement that decided not to honor FL Non Resident. They didn't have the authority to do that. The PA AG has that authority.
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    One reason is people don't want their carry permit tied to their DL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plode View Post
    PA was one of the states I wanted to carry in- it greatly influenced my decision to recently apply for a FL CCW. I would gladly get a PA license, but NJ will not issue CCW permits to anyone, so I do not qualify for one in PA since I don't have one in my home state.

    I think it's time to think about moving out of this armpit of US.
    I think you misunderstood. You can get a FL permit and it will be good in PA because you don't live
    in PA. Of course you're out of luck entirely once you set foot in NJ which hardly issues and doesn't recognize.

    In short, unless you get BOTH a NJ license and a FL non-resident, you are out of luck as far
    as going back and forth between NJ and FL --- because if you did go back and forth, no matter what you
    would be illegal in one place or the other if you didn't have both.

    We need national reciprocity and states like NJ which are very miserly about issuance, need to
    be somehow brought closer to the norms of the rest of the US.

    That is why we also need a national 2A protection act.

    Added later-- ignore part of the above and see Gary's post below.
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    Hopyard, PA will not accept the FL non Resident after the new agreement goes into effect. It doesn't matter what state you live in outside PA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    I think you misunderstood. You can get a FL permit and it will be good in PA because you don't live
    in PA. Of course you're out of luck entirely once you set foot in NJ which hardly issues and doesn't recognize.

    In short, unless you get BOTH a NJ license and a FL non-resident, you are out of luck as far
    as going back and forth between NJ and FL --- because if you did go back and forth, no matter what you
    would be illegal in one place or the other if you didn't have both.

    We need national reciprocity and states like NJ which are very miserly about issuance, need to
    be somehow brought closer to the norms of the rest of the US.

    That is why we also need a national 2A protection act.

    Re-read the the updated agreement. You must be a FL resident to use a FL permit in PA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Slider View Post
    Hopyard, PA will not accept the FL non Resident after the new agreement goes into effect. It doesn't matter what state you live in outside PA.

    Yeah... rather than "you can't be a PA res and carry on a FL permit", they're saying "you can't carry on an FL permit unless you have a FL ID".

    Lame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Slider View Post
    Hopyard, PA will not accept the FL non Resident after the new agreement goes into effect. It doesn't matter what state you live in outside PA.
    Ah, then I misunderstood. I thought they meant that their own residents could not use the FL permit.
    Well that should keep the Joisey Boys out.
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    FYI: Florida does not have resident and non-resident Concealed Weapons and Firearms Licenses - CWFLs. It will issue a CWFL to non-residents. As of last year (?) the license no longer lists an address on it, resident or otherwise, because if asked by LE to see your license, you had to also produce state-recognized ID (DL, State ID, etc.).
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