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This is a discussion on Missouri / South Carolina Sign Reciprocity Agreement within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Missouri and South Carolina have signed a reciprocity agreement. A letter stating that the agreement has been reached is attached....
Missouri and South Carolina have signed a reciprocity agreement. A letter stating that the agreement has been reached is attached.
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Now if they would only get something in the works with Florida...
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This indicates that South Carolina is actually doing some work to expand their reciprocity, and is welcome news. Perhaps we will see some action on deals with Florida and Utah, the two states that probably have the most non resident permits in circulation.
Always wonderful news when ANY state has expanded their recognition of other states' permits!!!
Unfortunately, as you know Gary, South Carolina still recognizes only resident permits. On that note, what do you think the chances are of getting South Carolina to either start issuing non-resident permits of their own (not just to "qualified non-residents", meaning SC property owners), or to accept permits issued to non-residents by states they already have agreements with? Noting, of course, that at the moment the only state SC has an agreement with that issues non-resident permits is Texas. Either of these directions would greatly serve the CCW community in general.
On another note, what do you think the chances are of reciprocity between SC and our shared resident location of WV? Especially considering that during the week of July 4th (miner's vacation) there are probably more West Virginians in Myrtle Beach than South Carolinians!
Great news for residents of Missouri, I'm just hoping and wishing for a solution for the rest of us!
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SC is very specific about only honoring Permits/Licenses from Residents of the issuing state. There law also points out exactly what the other states have to do when they issue a permit to a resident. If they don't do what is required in SC law then they can't sign an agreement with that sate. The law would have to be changed to allow for the hon oring of Non Resident license.
As for WV forget it. SC has to many mountains for WV to qualify. Besides The Democrats in WV who are susposed to be Firends of the NRA and gun owners will not sign with anyone and haven't for the last 6 years. They will not even answer other states who send inquiries about Reciprocity. Open Carry in WV. Look at WV law. You can carry openly anywhere a license holder can carry concealed. JUst keep it visible in the car. A holster hooked to the dash is a great place to carry it while driving. They can ask you to leave and you have to leave but if enough people did it they would make it easier for the people to conceal.
If you open carry I recommend a retension type holster.
True enough! We now have 29 states we are good in with the help from some key people on our missouricarry.com site.
I copied this post from one of our members that led this mission informing us of the South Carolina pick up.
That "MO AG's Memorandum was faxed back this morning and also mailed to South Carolina. So, we made it to 29 states (30 counting ourselves which is the way PDO and HandGunLaw do it). That's a 45% increase from 20 states in just 139 days when all this started. The ones in black are there due to MoCarry people and finally, the cooperation of the MO AGs office (and Mr Peter Lyskowski in particular).
Don't see anymore possibilities on states this year but be assured Kansas will be receiving a lot of attention after January 1, 2007.
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Yes, we've had some success in getting greater recognition of the MO permit. About 140 days and a nine (9) state pick-up.
The dialogue with South Carolina was originally initiated by two of us a http://www.missouricarry.com. We did the same thing with the eight other states posted above because we were not getting any action out of our Attorney General's office to promote the MO permit. In fairness tothe AG however, our CCW law never identified anyone in MO responsible to promote our permit. So, we went at it backwards by directly contacting these other states and quoting our law (and their statutes) that should make reciprocity possible.
All of a sudden, other states starting contacting the MO AG's office to verify what we were saying. Once it became obvious we were not going to go away, the MO AG's office actively began to promote our permit wherever possible.
There is nowhere else to go for the MO permit at this point. Washington and Minnesota turned us (MO) down because we don't require waiver of medical privacy (mental health records) in our CCW application process and Wyoming has never made a final decision about us (although there is something about our law that does not sit well with them).
Maybe folks in South Carolina could do the same thing (write letters to other states). It worked for us.. When we contacted South Carolina, they wrote us back and followed up with our Attorney General. It took awhile but South Carolina was very responsive.
Yep, good ol' SC really sucks when it comes to recognizing other states' permits. We about had a bill passed this past year that would have, I believe, allowed non-resident permits from other states to be recognized and would have gotten SLED, our bureaucratic state LE agency, out of the picture as far as determining whether other states met our criteria.
It died a painful death when one key "pro-gun" senator did some behind-the-scenes dealing--his version would have taken us backwards, making our CCW laws more restrictive.
Back-stabbin' Jake Knotts is his name, screwing gun owners is his game (he's a retired LEO, so he gets to carry whenever and wherever he wants).
Thanks to you MO guys for taking the initiative, because SLED sure isn't going to do it.
This "Key Senator" would't have a "D" associated with him would it????It died a painful death when one key "pro-gun" senator did some behind-the-scenes dealing--his version would have taken us backwards, making our CCW laws more restrictive.
Surprisingly he wears an "R" and with a thorough LEO background I guess he's never been impositioned as SCGuy says. Here's his bio:
Good work MO guys!!! We South Carolinians appreciate your hard work. Also, thanks Gary for posting it up!
Thanks to all for their time and efforts in getting this done. It's appreciated!
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