Carrying disassembled in a prohibited location
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February 17th, 2013 05:50 PM
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Carrying disassembled in a prohibited location
Someone told me that if your gun is disassembled then it doesn't even count as a gun. Is that true? If it is, then I would be tempted to carry in otherwise prohibited locations with my field stripped Glock in a handbag of some sort. (The Glock can obviously be reassembled in seconds.) Seems like this couldn't possibly be true, especially if any ammo was in the vicinity. Have I received misinformation? If so, are there any statute numbers you can give me to clarify? I am located in Tennessee.
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February 17th, 2013 06:04 PM
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I would not try that in DC, Maryland, MA, or IL...plus a few others that escape me right now....
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February 17th, 2013 06:08 PM
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I would not do that in a Federal building either. I work in one and even we as employees are not allowed to carry.
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February 17th, 2013 06:10 PM
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Very bad idea to use the legal defense of "but, but, it was dissembled," as you get cuffed-n-stuffed.
Agree with the above responses on locations not to do this.
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February 17th, 2013 06:11 PM
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Someone told me that if your gun is disassembled then it doesn't even count as a gun.
The serial numbered part (typically the frame) is legally the firearm, whether the gun is assembled or not.

Originally Posted by
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I would be tempted to carry in otherwise prohibited locations with my field stripped Glock in a handbag of some sort.
Terrible idea. See above.
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February 17th, 2013 06:11 PM
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Walk into you're local federal courthouse and explain to them that you really don't have a gun on you.
That its really taken apart, and rendered inopperable, then get back to me.
You would be wise to distance yourself from whoever it was who suggested such folly to you.
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February 17th, 2013 06:11 PM
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I guess that would depend of the opinion of the cop that arrested you for carrying a gun.
As an example of some federal laws, carrying any part of a gun or weapon into a prohibited place will get you thrown in the pokey.
I personally know of one incident where part of a gun was carried into a Nuclear Plant, (dust cover for a HK91) and the Security guard asked what it was as it was coming through the Xray machine, the guy was honest about it and told him and he was detained and nearly lost his job over it.
I think that if you are operating on the premise that a disassembled gun is not a gun,you might be the next test case that we read about and discuss here.
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February 17th, 2013 06:14 PM
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LOL...okay, okay!....Just was curious! :) Wasn't about to walk out and try this! ;)
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February 17th, 2013 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Walk into you're local federal courthouse and explain to them that you really don't have a gun on you.
That its really taken apart, and rendered inopperable, then get back to me.
You would be wise to distance yourself from whoever it was who suggested such folly to you.
Giving money and power to the government is like giving whiskey and car
keys to teenage boys.
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Welcome to DC from Michigan!
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February 17th, 2013 06:15 PM
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Federal code 18 USC 922 G prohibits felons from possessing weapons, ammo, even a spent cartridge. Those same rules apply in a Federal building. So, even if you were to disassemble your weapon and win the argument that since is inoperable, it is not a weapon (not likely), you would still have the prohibited ammo.
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February 17th, 2013 06:26 PM
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Simple..... a gun is a gun even in pieces. If a gun is banned just leave it at home. The risk is not worth it. Heres how I would weigh it... if you walked into a place with a bullet in your pocket.... would it cause a problem? if so, you shouldnt take a gun or gun parts there.
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February 17th, 2013 06:32 PM
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Doubt you'd get very far with that logic in Tennessee. Your action would probably be seen as just an attempt to circumvent the prohibition. At the least, the Dept of Safety would have cause to revoke your permit and you'd probably get turned down each time you re-applied. Then again, I'm not a lawyer nor did I stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
One person puts a bomb in his shoe and one in his underwear so we all have to take off our shoes and go through xray. Avi Dichter of the Israeli security service says, "You worry about what people are carrying, we worry about who the people are"
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February 17th, 2013 06:35 PM
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February 17th, 2013 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by
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Someone told me that if your gun is disassembled then it doesn't even count as a gun. Is that true? If it is, then I would be tempted to carry in otherwise prohibited locations with my field stripped Glock in a handbag of some sort. (The Glock can obviously be reassembled in seconds.) Seems like this couldn't possibly be true, especially if any ammo was in the vicinity. Have I received misinformation? If so, are there any statute numbers you can give me to clarify? I am located in Tennessee.
I don't know how the TN statutes read but you'd be subject to summary arrest in New York State.
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February 17th, 2013 06:46 PM
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Interesting question. I know with AR's, its the lower that is referred to as the "gun part" because it houses the trigger assy. Which is why it has to be sent to an FFL. I think uppers can be sent directly to you...? Maybe I'm wrong here.
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