Post Office Carry ?

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    Post Office Carry ?

    I'm getting conflicting answers on this.

    I can not find any good answer.

    This is from the Louisiana State Police on prohibited areas - no mention of post office.



    A law enforcement office, station, or building;
    A detention facility, prison, or jail;
    A courthouse or courtroom, provided that a judge may carry such a weapon in his own courtroom;
    A polling place;
    A meeting place of the governing authority of a political subdivision;
    The state capitol building;
    Any portion of an airport facility where the carrying of firearms is prohibited under federal law, except that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, if the firearm is encased for shipment, for the purpose of checking such firearm as lawful baggage;
    Any church, synagogue, mosque or similar place of worship; See RS 40:1379.3 (U)
    A parade or demonstration for which a permit is issued by a governmental entity;
    Any portion of the permitted area of an establishment that has been granted a Class A-General retail permit, as defined in Part II of Chapter 1 or Part II of Chapter 2 of Title 26 of the Louisiana Revised Statutes of 1950, to sell alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises.
    Any school "firearm free zone" as defined in R.S. 14:95.6.

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    Here it's considered a federal building. So unless you have a federal permit then no.
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    18 USC 930 and the federal restriction against carry on federal properties is worth reviewing.

    A quickie internet search brings up this: Concealed Carry in the Post Office - U.S. v Murray @ The Gun Zone RKBA.

    Here's a lawsuit in Colorado, from back in 2010, regarding the question:
    Colorado Couple Challenge USPS Ban Of Firearms on Postal Property. Provides a decent summary of some of the regulations/laws that apply.

    Plenty of other discussions, summaries out there that evaluate the limitations and applicability of the "exceptions" language regarding Post Office carry.
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    Thanks very much for the info.

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    Not only can you not carry a gun but the Post Office say no to WEAPONS. I work there 6 days a week and I do carry a knife but hopefully I can make the case it is a tool needed to preform my job, as there are strings and straps to be cut.
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    Not Allowed:

    US Code Title 18
    930. Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities


    (a) Except as provided in subsection (d), whoever knowingly possesses or causes to be present a firearm or other dangerous weapon in a Federal facility (other than a Federal court facility), or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.
    (b) Whoever, with intent that a firearm or other dangerous weapon be used in the commission of a crime, knowingly possesses or causes to be present such firearm or dangerous weapon in a Federal facility, or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.
    (c) A person who kills any person in the course of a violation of subsection (a) or (b), or in the course of an attack on a Federal facility involving the use of a firearm or other dangerous weapon, or attempts or conspires to do such an act, shall be punished as provided in sections 1111, 1112, 1113, and 1117.
    (d)Subsection (a) shall not apply to— (1) the lawful performance of official duties by an officer, agent, or employee of the United States, a State, or a political subdivision thereof, who is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of any violation of law;
    (2) the possession of a firearm or other dangerous weapon by a Federal official or a member of the Armed Forces if such possession is authorized by law; or
    (3) the lawful carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons in a Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful purposes.
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    The post office I go to does not have any signs about guns.

    Only one sign and it says no dogs, except "seeing eye dogs".

    I will check again (not-carrying)

    I really never thought about it - and i can probably recite the prohibited areas that are on the Louisiana State Police site.

    Wish they would add post office if it's not permitted

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    Quote Originally Posted by CigarStix View Post
    US Code Title 18 930(d)(3).

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    (3) the lawful carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons in a Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful purposes.
    Seemingly, being prepared for the lawful defense of one's own life would be such a purpose. One would think that section (d)(3) of the regulation would make CHL carry lawful, but to my knowledge this hasn't been successfully challenged and become the "new normal" yet. Sadly.
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    (3) the lawful carryingof firearms or other dangerous weapons in a Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful purposes.
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    Looks like we both posted the same thing at the same time - my apologies

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    I think ups is privately owned, so if there is no sign I am guessing it is ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewer3401 View Post
    I really never thought about it - and i can probably recite the prohibited areas that are on the Louisiana State Police site.

    Wish they would add post office if it's not permitted
    They don't list because it's not a state violation, it's a "federal" violation.
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    Direct from the LA Handgun Law Pamphlet:

    This pamphlet does not include all Federal laws pertaining to firearms. You must observe both Federal and State laws. Federal law is administered by Federal agencies. For information relative to Federal regulation of firearms, you may contact the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.
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    US Postal Service regulations (39 cfr 232.1(l)), which have the force of federal law, prohibit weapons in post office facilities.

    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-200...l1-part232.pdf

    (l) Weapons and explosives. No person while on postal property may carry firearms, other dangerous or deadly weapons, or explosives, either openly or concealed, or store the same on postal property, except for official purposes.
    You may choose to act as you choose. IANAL and I do not dispense legal advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowboyKen View Post
    US Postal Service regulations (39 cfr 232.1(l)), which have the force of federal law, prohibit weapons in post office facilities.

    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-200...l1-part232.pdf



    You may choose to act as you choose. IANAL and I do not dispense legal advice.

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    Never seen that - now I know - thank you.

    Going to leave in glove compartment when I enter the post office.

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