Concealed Carry restrictions

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    Concealed Carry restrictions

    In the state of Texas and most other states there are places you can't carry. Does anyone understand the reasoning behind these limits?

    Schools

    Hospitals

    Nursing homes

    Government buildings

    Places where alcohol is over 51% of business (this one I could maybe agree with)

    Also why would a business put up the 30.06 banning CCers from carrying?

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    Government buildings cannot be restricted unless they share a building with others that have posted 30.06 (federal is separate)

    As for the reasoning; you will get many different answers, but they were made into law. Once they exist they are difficult to remove.


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    Just my way of thinking. Many people perform mercy killings in hospitals and nursing homes. A sign or law is not going to stop this from happening. People violate laws all the time.

    There are some laws that do not make sense.

    Schools: As we have seen a lot of school shootings take place. We have made these no gun zones into criminal safe zones. The criminals know there will be only token resistence to their crimes in gun free zones so they can do as they please until a good guy shows up with a gun. Many times once a good guy arrives with a gun, he is then treated as a criminal. A kid shot and killed a few in a school several years ago in MS. A principal retreived a gun from his vehicle and stopped the boy from shooting others. He was hailed as a hero by the community but labeled a felon by the Feds since he had a gun on school property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyLee View Post
    In the state of Texas and most other states there are places you can't carry. Does anyone understand the reasoning behind these limits?

    Schools

    Hospitals

    Nursing homes

    Government buildings

    Places where alcohol is over 51% of business (this one I could maybe agree with)

    Also why would a business put up the 30.06 banning CCers from carrying?

    Have you been through your CHL class yet? If so, you were given some bad info.

    Hospitals/Nursing homes are not off limits unless there is a valid 30.06 sign. Government buildings (State, County, or Local) are not off limits, unless they have a court room or court office in them, and even if they do put up a 30.06 sign it is meaningless unless there is a govenmental meeting taking place at the time.

    Why a business would put up a 30.06 sign is a matter of the business owner/managers thought process. Around here the only places that have signs are the hospitals. I think their reasoning is that people may be distressed by the news of a loved ones medical condition or death and they don't want folks going off on a tangent.

    Whether that is a valid concern or not can be debated. But if you are found in violation of the 30.06 code, it is a Class A misdemeanor, and that isn't a risk I am willing to take.

    For state purposes, here are the prohibited places.

    Court room or any building containing court offices.

    Polling place on day of election or during early voting.

    Secure Area of airport

    Bar

    Racetrack

    Within 1000 feet of location on day of execution.

    Fails to conceal the handgun.

    Correctional facility.

    School Premises or place where school function is taking place.

    High School, collegiant or professional sporting event.

    Any place except a gov. building which has a valid 30.06 sign.
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    Because they say so. These things are usually to comply with federal law (polling place) but mostly to appease the liberal lawmakers in an attempt to gain their support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyLee View Post
    In the state of Texas and most other states there are places you can't carry. Does anyone understand the reasoning behind these limits?

    Schools

    Hospitals

    Nursing homes

    Government buildings

    Places where alcohol is over 51% of business (this one I could maybe agree with)

    Also why would a business put up the 30.06 banning CCers from carrying?
    In Virginia only 2 of those apply. Federal Government buildings, courts and Kindergarten-High School. The rest are legal to carry. As to why it is like that. It was basically compromise to get the initial laws through and never been changed. VA has a very active Grassroots organization that pushes for changes to our laws.
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    I have used this page off and on when I am curious if I can CC in a certain place.
    http://doubleactionchl.com/cheatsheet.php?kw


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    Quote Originally Posted by Funkybassplayer View Post
    I have used this page off and on when I am curious if I can CC in a certain place.
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    It's because the anti-gunners realize they couldn't come for your guns all at once, so they are whittling away at the second amendment with "reasonable" measures. It's not that it protects anyone from crazy people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Funkybassplayer View Post
    I have used this page off and on when I am curious if I can CC in a certain place.
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    They really should remove the section on hospitals/amusement park/churches/governmental meeting, as it simply falls under the 30.06 statute like anything else.

    Texas on the other hand should have stricken that portion of the law when they changed it 15 years ago or so, since many people fail to continue to read the statute where it reads that these sections do not apply without effective notice under 30.06, which makes them the same as any other place in the state.

    The first thing I do when I get to this portion in our classes is have the student mark these sections with a big bracket and put 30.06 outside of it and explain these sections no longer apply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by farronwolf View Post
    They really should remove the section on hospitals/amusement park/churches/governmental meeting, as it simply falls under the 30.06 statute like anything else.

    Texas on the other hand should have stricken that portion of the law when they changed it 15 years ago or so, since many people fail to continue to read the statute where it reads that these sections do not apply without effective notice under 30.06, which makes them the same as any other place in the state.

    The first thing I do when I get to this portion in our classes is have the student mark these sections with a big bracket and put 30.06 outside of it and explain these sections no longer apply.
    I see what you are saying about cutting that section out of the page but its a couple years old and I just use it for quick reference.

    And who needs a gun at Six Flags anyways? Lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Funkybassplayer View Post
    I see what you are saying about cutting that section out of the page but its a couple years old and I just use it for quick reference.

    And who needs a gun at Six Flags anyways? Lol


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    Florida has a long and bizarre list of restrictions:

    any school, college, or professional athletic event (are Marlins fans that dangerous?)
    any school administration building (no kids to "protect"!?!)
    any area vocational-technical center (isn't this usually for adults?)
    inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport (ask AZ about their airport shootouts)
    any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district (do we scare our overlords?)
    any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof (ditto)
    any polling place (has anybody ever shot up one?)
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by randian View Post
    Florida has a long and bizarre list of restrictions:

    any school, college, or professional athletic event (are Marlins fans that dangerous?)
    any school administration building (no kids to "protect"!?!)
    any area vocational-technical center (isn't this usually for adults?)
    inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport (ask AZ about their airport shootouts)
    any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district (do we scare our overlords?)
    any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof (ditto)
    any polling place (has anybody ever shot up one?)
    ...
    Not aware of any being shot up, however it was a common intimidation practice in the past.
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