Typical Self-Defense Shooting?

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    Typical Self-Defense Shooting?

    Is there a published FBI statistic (or other source) for a "Typical Self-Defense Shooting" by non-LEO's?

    I've heard: 3-shots, at 3-yards, at 3 a.m. -- but don't know if that is true or just a myth?

    I'm aware that every instance is somewhat different, but wondered if there is a statistical average event?

    In the last 20 years, more people carry high-cap semi-auto's, whereas 40 years ago the 6-shot .38 revolver was probably what most people owned. I wonder if self-defense shootings very often involve more that 3 o 4 rounds being fired? Personally, I have difficulty envisioning a situation where an averge citizen, in an average suburb, would fire 15 rounds. I would worry about the unintended damage from stray shots hitting someone else sitting in their living room watching TV.

    Anyhow, is there published data on this topic?

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    If you cant shoot, you need more boolits, extra capacity is for non-shooters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kutz View Post
    extra capacity is for non-shooters.
    Or in a case of multiple "targets", the extra capacity would be for that. I'd rather have lots of bullets and not use them, instead of having not enough and needing them.
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    As I have said before, if you are firing 15+ rounds, you are in a running gun battle. Or defending your meth lab. Either situation constitutes a less than enviable set of circumstances.

    I've heard sumthin' like 2-2-2 before (two shots, two seconds, two yards). 3-3-3 sounds just as anecdotal.

    I'm sure the statistics can be averaged. But hey, if you're playing statistics, you might as well not even carry, because chances are you'll never need to use your gun.

    My point is you can find the statistics - just google some keywords - but they are pretty much meaningless for Joe Citizen. Most of the time I carry a j-frame, but sometimes I carry a semi that holds 14. But I don't feel undergunned with the j-frame...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kutz View Post
    If you cant shoot, you need more boolits, extra capacity is for non-shooters.
    That's exactly right! All you need are two blasts from the double barrel out the door and all your problems will be solved...

    Or maybe extra capacity is for folks that realize that it's better to be prepared and not need the extra shots than to foolishly believe that they are the second coming of Josey Wales and could fell even multiple attackers with a single bullet.
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    Lets see if you're proficient & accurate with you're firearm you shouldn't need more then 3rds. :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by gold40 View Post
    Is there a published FBI statistic (or other source) for a "Typical Self-Defense Shooting" by non-LEO's?

    I've heard: 3-shots, at 3-yards, at 3 a.m. -- but don't know if that is true or just a myth?

    I'm aware that every instance is somewhat different, but wondered if there is a statistical average event?

    In the last 20 years, more people carry high-cap semi-auto's, whereas 40 years ago the 6-shot .38 revolver was probably what most people owned. I wonder if self-defense shootings very often involve more that 3 o 4 rounds being fired? Personally, I have difficulty envisioning a situation where an averge citizen, in an average suburb, would fire 15 rounds. I would worry about the unintended damage from stray shots hitting someone else sitting in their living room watching TV.

    Anyhow, is there published data on this topic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERCHEFNICK View Post
    Lets see if you're proficient & accurate with you're firearm you shouldn't need more then 3rds. :p
    Sources?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kutz View Post
    If you cant shoot, you need more boolits, extra capacity is for non-shooters.
    Which is why I stick with standard capacity. Thanks for the validation.
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    Personally I would rather have 12 rounds left than none. The lady in Georgia shot BG 5 times & he still walked away. Real good argument for high cap mags in an easily managed caliber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PEF View Post
    As I have said before, if you are firing 15+ rounds, you are in a running gun battle. Or defending your meth lab.
    Or, you are NYPD responding to a "man with gun" call outside the Empire State Building.
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    I had this conversation at work with some guys when magazine limits were all the talk in gun control. Someone asked, "How many rounds does it take to defend yourself?" and I replied, "When facing 3+ home invaders, I don't know how many rounds it may take, but I know how many I will use...and that's 19+1 and several extra mags. Nobody ever survived a gunfight and said they were thankful they didn't have any extra ammo when it was over."
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    I need at least 12 rounds just to work out the adrenaline and the next 3 for good shot placement.
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