Some Good News for Concealed Carry

Some Good News for Concealed Carry

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    Some Good News for Concealed Carry

    Nebraska Furniture Mart, which has been on my personal boycott list for a while, is reversing it's firearm ban for customers and employees.

    Nebraska Furniture Mart to allow employees, customers to carry guns | fox4kc.com

    I think this is very good news, especially coming at a time when it's not going to be seen as politically correct to make policy changes that are pro-firearm.

    This, hopefully, is also a great example of why we should always make a polite, but firm, stance on our rights and let these companies know in writing. NFM has received more than one letter from me in the past containing a polite conversation about the business that they lost due to their policy. I also plan to send them a new letter commending their decision, since I fully realize that they will probably receive some negative attention due to the policy change.
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    I'm in the polite but firm camp as well. Let the other side act out their fantasies with unwarranted rage.
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    In that article I don't see NFM allowing all employees with permits to carry. It says some security personnel will be armed, after training.
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    That's great news! It's too bad they were formerly against carrying, I liked their store in Omaha.

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    I wonder what really changed their minds? Not only did the signs come down, but now employees can be armed? Something happened...
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    I wonder what really changed their minds? Not only did the signs come down, but now employees can be armed? Something happened...
    Yeah, I've been pondering that as well. I'm sure it wasn't because I wrote them a time or two, but obviously something caused them to change policy. Maybe they had a management change or something like that. Dunno, but whatever it is, I'll take it!
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    Maybe they simply realized anytime, anyplace--including theirs.
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    Sounds like the light finally went on in someones head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdprof View Post
    In that article I don't see NFM allowing all employees with permits to carry. It says some security personnel will be armed, after training.
    Nobody said all employees could carry, only that they are changing their policy for customers and employees. As is stands right now, there are no armed security services at their stores, so even just allowing certain employees to carry is a positive step; especially for the other employees, as well as the customers that choose to not arm themselves.
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    I know nothing about that state's laws, but I think they'll find having "armed security" create obstacles they haven't considered. In Fl, that would require an entirely different licensing above and beyond an individual concealed weapons license.
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    It seems the article linked has some information about the policy change:

    In defense of the company's policy changes, Batt (the company's executive vice president) said months of outside research and discussion went into the decision.

    “We consulted experts in corporate and personal security. We didn't do this on our own.

    We consulted the best minds on this strategy. It's only because we want to protect people,” said Batt. “Our goal is that this kind of thing will never be needed.”
    Nebraska Furniture Mart plan to arm security staff called leap into uncharted territory - Omaha.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    I know nothing about that state's laws, but I think they'll find having "armed security" create obstacles they haven't considered. In Fl, that would require an entirely different licensing above and beyond an individual concealed weapons license.
    My guess is that's the case is just about every state. That, however, is not an "obstacle", it's just a process that needs to be gone through. Remember that old saying, the difference between a stepping stone and a stumbling block is the height to which one raises one's foot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asldkjfqwoifqwo View Post
    My guess is that's the case is just about every state. That, however, is not an "obstacle", it's just a process that needs to be gone through. Remember that old saying, the difference between a stepping stone and a stumbling block is the height to which one raises one's foot.
    Yeah, based on the second article, they obviously have done their homework so I'm guessing they fully understand the path needed to arm staff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    I wonder what really changed their minds? Not only did the signs come down, but now employees can be armed? Something happened...
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    From the article ~"Batt cited incidents in which store employees have encountered people carrying weapons inside the store, including someone brandishing a knife.

    “Times have changed,” Batt said. “You look at college campuses, retail establishments. ... We only have one mission here, and that's the safety of the staff and customers. We're sending a message that we will not tolerate any bad behavior.”
    There you have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TX expat View Post
    Nobody said all employees could carry, only that they are changing their policy for customers and employees. As is stands right now, there are no armed security services at their stores, so even just allowing certain employees to carry is a positive step; especially for the other employees, as well as the customers that choose to not arm themselves.
    Both your lead sentence, and the article's headline, simply say "employees", without any further qualification or limitation. Without the detail further down in the article that the policy appears to only allow certain selected and trained employees (security) to carry, the headline is a tad misleading.
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