Active Duty Resident or Non Resident, OK, TX, or NC??

Active Duty Resident or Non Resident, OK, TX, or NC??

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    Active Duty Resident or Non Resident, OK, TX, or NC??

    Got a question for the CCW/CHL gurus out there. I am Active Duty Army currently stationed at Fort Bragg, NC for the past 2 years. I own a home in Oklahoma as well as my Drivers License etc (Stationed there for 2 years prior to NC). I am however a resident of TX (Income Taxes and home of record before I joined Military 9 years ago). My question is what would be the best route for me to get my CCW? Through NC or OK? I know some states have options for AD members and some not. Thanks for ya'lls support and assistance.


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    I am AD at Bragg as well. Although I don't have a NC permit because I opted for one from my home of residents of Michigan and I maintain my MI drivers license. A Quick look at at OK vs NC permits, they both seem comparable to each other. I think since you are here in NC it would be a lot easier for you to get one here vs OK. The one thing I'm not to sure of with this CCW permit thing and active duty military is the residence requirements per states. Due to federal law you are a resident of NC since you are on military orders, however not sure once you PCS what that would mean for your permit since NC only issues to residents. Would it become void once you PCSed without establishing permanent residents in NC? I don't have a real good answer for you, all I know is a bunch of people I know in my office have NC permits and they have been fine with it. If you are Airborne, you will likely get stuck in Bragg for the remainder of your contract or until you retire so it may be easier just to get a NC permit.

    If you do get a NC permit, run down to the DMV and get a NC ID card with your current address in NC on it. That will help quite a lot if you travel to other states such as SC or FL where they will only honor resident out of state permits. Not all cops will know the ends and outs of Active Duty resident status.
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    Texas will issue you a permit whether resident or non resident at no charge for current military personel. You just have to get to Texas to take a class and get fingerprinted.
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    All things being equal, I'd go with the NC permit. NC does have more hoops to jump through to obtain a permit, but my understanding is that the time period for issue is close to the same. NC is going to be cheaper than OK. I was going to suggest a VA non-resident permit, cost is less, your DD214 suffices for training and permit wait time is a maximum of 45 days. However the permit would not be recognized by SC (they only recognize resident permits) and I don't think you'd be able to obtain a purchase permit with the VA permit. Not sure if a NC purchase permit is required though if you purchase the gun on base.


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    Current wait time for Cumberland County has been running about 20 days or so. I've had a few friends get theirs in the past few months.

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    As active duty you are a resident of whatever state you claim your home of residency in, but most states consider active duty military as residents anyway, regardless. As noted, texas will issue permits to active duty military stationed there.
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    Just a little sidestep off the topic - you have a three way split going - claiming TX residency, living/stationed in NC and still holding an OK driver license. Notwithstanding you have property in OK, you might run into an issue somewhere down the line. Where you vote is also an important factor in determining your state of residence (which does not have to be your military home of record.) So OK may or may not be in play at this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by farronwolf View Post
    Texas will issue you a permit whether resident or non resident at no charge for current military personel. You just have to get to Texas to take a class and get fingerprinted.
    Question for purposes of information only at this time.

    Why would one have to go to TX for fingerprinting? I have gotten fingerprinted in AL, KS, TX and LA. The LA application does not say anything about having to be printed in LA but only that the app has to be accompanied with a fingerprint card and photos signed by the person doing the fingerprints.

    Then taking a class? Is it in TX law that classes must be taken in TX? I was under the impression that a qualified handgun instructor could give training. Does the law say it has to be a TX instructor? If so, then I may be having to get a TX instructor to put me through my 15th course in the last 27 yrs.

    BTW: Louisiana is considering a lifetime permit for $300. What is up for discussion in the legislature is if classes will be needed in the future for the permit to be valid and how to enforce that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldman45 View Post
    Question for purposes of information only at this time.

    Why would one have to go to TX for fingerprinting? I have gotten fingerprinted in AL, KS, TX and LA. The LA application does not say anything about having to be printed in LA but only that the app has to be accompanied with a fingerprint card and photos signed by the person doing the fingerprints.

    Then taking a class? Is it in TX law that classes must be taken in TX? I was under the impression that a qualified handgun instructor could give training. Does the law say it has to be a TX instructor? If so, then I may be having to get a TX instructor to put me through my 15th course in the last 27 yrs.
    I can't speak for Texas laws, when I applied for my Florida non resident permit, I went to the Fort Bragg Provost Marshals office and got finger printed. Also Florida law supports military firearms training as being good enough for the course. I sent in my Fort Bragg orders and pistol qual form and was good.

    Again I can't speak on Texas laws. Here in NC the CPL course does have to be blessed off by the state of NC. I inquired here in NC about using my NRA certificate from the course I took in Michigan. They said no I had to take a course from a registered NC instructor because they require a certain about of law to meet the requirements.

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    Active duty can get a permit if on orders in Mississippi. Military members can get their permit at 18 years of age (this is new).
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldman45 View Post
    Question for purposes of information only at this time.

    Why would one have to go to TX for fingerprinting? I have gotten fingerprinted in AL, KS, TX and LA. The LA application does not say anything about having to be printed in LA but only that the app has to be accompanied with a fingerprint card and photos signed by the person doing the fingerprints.

    Then taking a class? Is it in TX law that classes must be taken in TX? I was under the impression that a qualified handgun instructor could give training. Does the law say it has to be a TX instructor? If so, then I may be having to get a TX instructor to put me through my 15th course in the last 27 yrs.

    BTW: Louisiana is considering a lifetime permit for $300. What is up for discussion in the legislature is if classes will be needed in the future for the permit to be valid and how to enforce that.
    Texas requires that you take the class in Texas, by a Texas CHL instructor.

    You must also do fingerprinting specifically for the CHL. Regardless of how many times you have been fingerprinted previously, it must be done digitally at an L1 location for the CHL process.
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    Ya know, all 3 states will recognize a FL permit issued to a non-res. As stated before, SC won't recognize it - but that may or may not be an issue for you. Something else to consider is if you get transferred for any reason, your resident permit, from whatever state, may no longer be valid - don't have that problem with a FL permit issued to a non-res when dealing with about 30 different states.

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