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    Great Pilot Interaction

    Boarding a flight from IAH to LAX a few months ago, I had just stepped off the jet bridge through 1L and was greeted by a flight attendant. As I replied with a quick thanks, I was then welcomed aboard by the First Officer. I made sure to give eye contact and also told him thank you, then started my motion to turn and continue up the center aisle. Just as I was breaking eye contact, something caught my eye. The following was pretty much word-for-word what was said:

    Me: FFDO? (Yes, used the acroymn . . . I figured the one senior citizen woman behind me would have no idea, and it seemed more tactful than asking if he had a gun up there).

    FO: (Smiling) How did you know?

    Me: Just saw your lanyard and put 2 and 2 together. (He had his employee ID hanging from a thin black lanyard strap which had tiny Glock logos on the material).

    FO: (Chuckles) Well, I guess that makes sense.

    Me: Thanks for being up there.

    FO: My pleasure.

    As I was de-boarding, he remembered me and we chatted a quick bit about a few other things. I sincerely regret not grabbing his name so I could post a complement to the airline for excellent customer service from the crew. While commercial flying has become a dreary and wearisome event recently, this interaction was a great little boost to my trip.

    Side-note, I am quite frustrated by the news on the TSA spending over $50 million on new uniforms, while at the same time slashing the budget for the Federal Flight Deck Officer program which freezes training for new applicants. Guess it is just more evidence to the irrationality and ideology of the current administration when it comes to firearms.
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    Thank your stars you didnt get diverted to NY your pilot would be a felon and you would have had to fly the plane yourself
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    Quote Originally Posted by nova83tx View Post
    Boarding a flight from IAH to LAX a few months ago, I had just stepped off the jet bridge through 1L and was greeted by a flight attendant. As I replied with a quick thanks, I was then welcomed aboard by the First Officer. I made sure to give eye contact and also told him thank you, then started my motion to turn and continue up the center aisle. Just as I was breaking eye contact, something caught my eye. The following was pretty much word-for-word what was said:

    Me: FFDO? (Yes, used the acroymn . . . I figured the one senior citizen woman behind me would have no idea, and it seemed more tactful than asking if he had a gun up there).

    FO: (Smiling) How did you know?

    Me: Just saw your lanyard and put 2 and 2 together. (He had his employee ID hanging from a thin black lanyard strap which had tiny Glock logos on the material).

    FO: (Chuckles) Well, I guess that makes sense.

    Me: Thanks for being up there.

    FO: My pleasure.

    As I was de-boarding, he remembered me and we chatted a quick bit about a few other things. I sincerely regret not grabbing his name so I could post a complement to the airline for excellent customer service from the crew. While commercial flying has become a dreary and wearisome event recently, this interaction was a great little boost to my trip.

    Side-note, I am quite frustrated by the news on the TSA spending over $50 million on new uniforms, while at the same time slashing the budget for the Federal Flight Deck Officer program which freezes training for new applicants. Guess it is just more evidence to the irrationality and ideology of the current administration when it comes to firearms.
    While I applaud the interaction with another brother-in-arms, I think it wasn't smart on the FO's part to revel that he was armed. That info would be invaluable to a hijacker. As well, I think it may have violated the certificate he was operating under.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangochuck View Post
    While I applaud the interaction with another brother-in-arms, I think it wasn't smart on the FO's part to revel that he was armed. That info would be invaluable to a hijacker. As well, I think it may have violated the certificate he was operating under.
    All valid points, part of which is why I didn't include any information such as airline or date of the flight.

    About my quotes, when I asked if he was a FFDO, I paraphrased his response and he might have said "How did you know" or "What makes you say that?" This happened awhile back so my memory of his phrasing isn't perfect.

    He certainly did NOT reply in a clear affirmative, yes I am armed up here. If a hijacker has the cojones strike up that type of conversation, well I guess FFDO's and Air Marshals have to use their discretion.

    I did think about it later, after reading about a family that asked for a violent in-flight movie to be turned off and the Captain diverted the flight for "safety" reasons. I ran the risk of asking, and if his first response was at all stand-offish or negative, I would have dropped the question immediately. Also, I figured that I sort of pointed out something similar such as if I noticed a fellow CHL/CCW who was unintentionally printing. If he wore the Glock lanyard, he might want to know that other people might see it and draw conclusions, so he could decide whether or not to continue using that for his ID strap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nova83tx View Post
    Also, I figured that I sort of pointed out something similar such as if I noticed a fellow CHL/CCW who was unintentionally printing. If he wore the Glock lanyard, he might want to know that other people might see it and draw conclusions, so he could decide whether or not to continue using that for his ID strap.
    Important point. I'm sure he appreciated knowing that perspective. Strange, that that wouldn't have already occurred to him, to hide the logos/emblems/lanyards and other outward clues of being armed.
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    The elderly lady is probably still wondering why you called him Fido?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nedrgr21 View Post
    The elderly lady is probably still wondering why you called him Fido?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost1958 View Post
    Thank your stars you didnt get diverted to NY your pilot would be a felon and you would have had to fly the plane yourself
    Hey! I'd like to give it a go! (See avatar)

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    I'm surprised the Flight Offficer admited to being armed. As well as suprised to know he had an ID with a firearm acutramont{sp}. with concieled firearms the best tactic available is that of SURPRIZE!!!!! I got one too!!!!
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    When I fly, and have the chance to be greeted by the Pilot, or other flight officer.... I just usually say "GOOD LUCK...WERE ALL COUNTING ON YOU."

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    On my last flight with my wife, daughter, and Granddaughter to NYC a couple of years ago, I asked the Flight Attendant if XXXXXX Airline still gave Wings to children on their first flight. She said Yes and where is she, I responded right there in 5A. She got on the phone and called the Captain back to give them to her. He then asked if she would like to "Come up and see my office"? She said yes and we all walked to the Flight Deck while the rest of the passengers in First Class went GA-GA. I have one of those only comes by once or twice in a lifetime pictures with my Granddaughter sitting in the First Officers seat of a 757. It made all of our day with that. Yes there are lots of things that can be accomplished if done in the right way at the right time. Yes I did notice the nicely dressed Federal guy up in First Class also.
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    asked for a violent in-flight movie to be turned off
    Jeezzzzz...........tell 'em just turn off their own TV. For cryin' out loud.

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    I dont fly at all, ever, period and the only way I would is if Im life flighted. Did it four times twice in choppers and twice in passenger airliners and that was enough. If just had to I prefer choppers.
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